Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snert


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was redirect to Hägar the Horrible. WP:V concerns, which cannot be overridden by consensus, preclude keeping it. Sandstein 16:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Snert

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NN neologism that never took off, "deprecated and obsolete on the vast majority of the Internet" according to a recent verion of the article. Prod contested. Percy Snoodle 16:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. Delete Deb 17:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Hägar the Horrible ➥the Epopt 17:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. --Sable232 18:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect per The Epopt. Danny Lilithborne 00:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep I disagree with deleting the article. The term IS still used some places, and while I might quibble with parts of the article, I think the basic characterization is correct. Deleting terms just because they are not common would make for a bad reference work. It is exactly the uncommon terms that people need to look up. Whoperson 21:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment coud you provide a reference to show that it is actually used? Percy Snoodle 11:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Useful as reference even if archaic. --Sjsilverman 02:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment the question isn't whether it's useful, it's whether it's used. Can you cite any sources to show that it is used? Percy Snoodle 11:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - I have used the term Snert in a recent ethnography I carried out, which is currently being peer-reviewed. Apple didn't change their name when they launched the iMac just because they had existed since the 1980s. Snerts are still apparent in online communities, it is still a useful term for describing those who's posts to an online community are dominated by flames. - Jonathanbishop 12:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: Then this should be moved to Wiktionary. --Sable232 15:37, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps Snert and Internet Troll should be merged into a page on types of user in online communities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jonathanbishop (talk • contribs) 18:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC).


 * Comment had you seen this term before, or did you invent it for your ethnography? If the latter, it shouldn't be on wikipedia. Percy Snoodle 11:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm an expert in online communities Percy, I have been developing and researching them for nearly a decade now. The term Snert appears in literature on online communities, such as NetLingo, so has every right to be on Wikipedia. In my ethnography I used pre-existing names whereever possible, and Snert was one of the ones I used. If my paper is published I or anyone will have every right to put the terms I came up with and their definitions on Wikipedia, so people can learn about the different types of people that make up online communities, from experts like myself, who have their work peer-reviewed by top academics, and published in well-respected academic journals. People like you Percy seem to just want to destroy knowledge, it is people like you that ruin projects like Wikipedia, by asking for information that people want to be deleted. Read my conference speech about people like yourself making projects like Wikipedia not meet the harmony criterion of social change. --Jonathanbishop 14:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep I disagree with deletion. I was looking for the Dutch soup, which needs to be expanded, but in the process learned about an interesting (if archaic) term. Keep  10:48, 16 December 2006 (EST) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.187.117.105 (talk) 15:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC).
 * Comment Whether it is interesting is not the issue; it's whether it is a genuine term that was used, or whether it was just made up by someone one day. Percy Snoodle 11:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep I also disagree with deletion. I was reading about forum trolling and learned about forum snert too --84.48.104.116 10:21, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Most of the keep votes here are from people who "learned about" the term from this page - that would seem to indicate that they'd never heard of it before. Wikipedia is not for things you made up one day. Percy Snoodle 11:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.