Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snoop Dogg minor albums, bootlegs and mixtapes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was SPEEDY, as a blatant recreation of deleted material. -Splash talk 22:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Snoop Dogg minor albums, bootlegs and mixtapes
This is the stack of Snoop Dogg mixtapes under discussion here collected in one place. The consensus that has emerged in the still-ongoing deletion discussion is that as a rule, mixes and bootlegs are too numerous and ephemeral to warrant a place in an encyclopedia and should be included only if they had a bearing on the artist's career and are well-known in fandom. The tapes listed here are neither.

Someone made the point that one encyclopedic article on Snoop Dogg bootlegs might be a good idea, this cut-and-paste of tracklistings isn't it, though. Pilatus 18:23, 27 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete this as a recreation of soon-to-be deleted material. If the creator wants to have an article on Snoop's underground releases, have him do such in prose, using scholarly references, and not simply doing a cut and paste merge to prove a (very poorly grounded) point. --FuriousFreddy 18:29, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. You cannot simultaneously admit that the information has not been deleted and that the material in this article is a recreation of that material. It is obviously a merge of that material, which may be (or may not be) be deleted, onto a new merge target, which is entirely compatible with the deletion policy and is, in fact, specifically mentioned as the preferable to deletion in the deletion policy.  --Tony Sidaway|Talk 19:55, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup per previous comments. Stop abusing speedy tags. Also, criticizing someone's writing abilities is out of order. Use the cleanup tag. -- JJay 18:42, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, obviously, to preserve verifiable information about a major rap phenomenon. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 19:53, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup per Tony Sidaway. The article shouldn't be a list of discographies though; it should be an article describing the phenomenon of mix tapes; if this phenomenon applies to all rap artists, it should document mix tapes of rap artists in general, not Snoop Dogg in particular. --Quarl 20:24, 27 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep and clean up per Quarl. A preamble is needed to help put it all in context (for example, what is a "minor album" and why is it in this article instead of the Snoop Dog discography?). I would prefer summaries of mixtapes and bootlegs instead of a track-by-track listing as this listing will soon become unwieldy. The bigger acts will always have more bootleg titles than "official" releases (e.g., James Brown, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Tupac Shakur), and the mixtapes in rap magnify this. B.Wind 20:42, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, these things are verifiable and a significant aspect of fandom, but since it might not be possible to write very much about each one of them, a merge may be the best solution. Kappa 21:15, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup per others.  Q  Q 23:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Wait until the other AFD closes, and then delete this as well as a substantially identical copy of deleted material. Forking out is precisely what that CSD means to prevent. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 00:38, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Tlogmer 03:08, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The other AFD has closed. Speedy delete as a substantially identical copy of deleted material, per Radiant. Nandesuka 05:28, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tony and Expand in prose by Freddy. Maybe I will do it myself if enough information is available and time is on my side (during the debate it would have been impossible).Lajbi 10:22, 30 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.