Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snowplough turn


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There's consensus that the article's subject is notable and that, while the article needs work, AfD isn't clean-up. (non-admin closure) versacespace  leave a message!  00:02, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Snowplough turn

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Reads as a dicdef and has been unsourced since 2007. Is there really a need for such an article, or can't it just be mentioned in Skiing? Coin945 (talk) 11:46, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:00, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep It's an under-developed article. However, the topic is too specific for inclusion in Skiing without enumerating and describing every other skiing technique. It's notability is shown by being described in many references:


 * Using "snowplow":


 * 1) Skiing - Dec 1973 - Page 146
 * 2) Basic Cold Weather Manual - Page 87
 * 3) Boys' Life - Feb 1967 - Page 50
 * 4) How the Racers Ski - Page 116
 * 5) Skiing - Dec 1969 - Page 123
 * 6) Invitation to Modern Skiing - Page 81


 * Using "snowplough":


 * 1) The Complete Skiing Handbook - Page 76
 * 2) Dyslexia: Developing the Debate
 * 3) Junior Ski School - Page 44
 * 4) Skiing Made Easy: Complete beginner to parallel turns - Page 30
 * 5) Skiing and Snowboarding: 52 brilliant ideas for fun on the ... - Page 99
 * 6) The Technique of Mountaineering: A Handbook of Established ...
 * Sincerely, HopsonRoad (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Update I have expanded the article to include a basic structure and references. HopsonRoad (talk) 17:16, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, but question: ploughing is not just a technique for turning, but for braking in straight sections as well. Could the article reflect that as well? Geschichte (talk) 15:26, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Geschichte, a good topic for Talk:Snowplough turn. HopsonRoad (talk) 22:05, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 07:35, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep There's no need for this AfD per WP:ATD, WP:BEFORE and WP:NOTCLEANUP. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:06, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I think relisting this was unnecessary, it could have probably been closed as keep per WP:HEY. I suppose it would be possible to merge to Alpine skiing (or create a separate Alpine skiing techniques article), but considering how lengthy the carved turn article is, we're probably better off having separate articles. TompaDompa (talk) 01:11, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.