Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snowy Shaw Is Alive!


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The result was redirect to Snowy Shaw. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:17, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Snowy Shaw Is Alive!

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Fails WP:NALBUM. The album verifiably exists, but lacks the substantial, non-trivial, coverage from multiple independent, reliable, sources required by both WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG. There is no evidence that I could find in a WP:BEFORE search to indicate that the album ever charted, thus missing criterion #2 of NALBUM as well. The SandDoctor Talk 04:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC); expanded 17:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  The SandDoctor  Talk 04:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  The SandDoctor  Talk 04:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: I found some reliable sources which talk about the album:, , , , and . With these, the album is good enough to pass WP:NALBUM.  ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * grande-rock not RS per WP:ALBUMAVOID
 * blabbermouth not a review and just confirms that the album exists, which doesn't do anything for notability.
 * metalkaoz - not a review, merely confirming that the album exists without going in much detail aside from stating that Snowy Shaw is a "virtuoso..." and that they enjoyed it "to the maximum", while simultaneously including (in big, bold, red lettering "NO RAT[ING]"). No wiki article, not in WP:A/S, seems very much like WP:SPS.
 * metal-rules does not exactly come across as a professional review site with editorial oversight based on the quality of the review and blatant WP:PUFFERY that would never be allowed in a professional review by a RS site.
 * ztmag just confirms that the album exists (covering its announcement) without any sort of review or non-trivial coverage (barely 3 paragraphs), which is strictly routine coverage. No wiki article, not in WP:M/S, seems like WP:SPS
 * hellpress not even a review and just confirms that the album exists, which doesn't do anything for notability.
 * Overall, this album appears to run into problems with WP:NOTINHERETED, WP:NRV, and a general lack of non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable publications. -- The SandDoctor Talk 05:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ST47 (talk) 23:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Andrew nyr (talk, contribs) 23:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect with Snowy Shaw. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NALBUM. I agree with most of TheSandDoctor's analysis of the sources posted by Superastig, but disagree about some. Blabbermouth does a little more than confirm the album's existence and the metalkoaz source is a commentary of the album, so I would call it a review. I do not believe the hellpress source is reliable, and the two sources I mentioned before are not enough to show notability. I searched every heavy metal source in WP:A/S but could not find additional information or reviews, and I also searched Google and JSTOR but could not find additional sources. A redirect will allow the album's info from these sources to be published in a more appropriate place and give info on an event in Snowy Shaw's career. Z1720 (talk) 02:43, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 *  Redirect as Z1720 and TSD have helpfully explained, it doesn't seem independently notable based on coverage in reliable sources. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:59, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


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