Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SoNoLita


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 20:14, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

SoNoLita

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Hoax:
 * 1. No Google hits for "SoNoLita" except this article and the image on it
 * 2. None of the refs in the article refer to the term
 * 3. The ref "sonolita.com" (now removed) redirects to this page
 * 4. The "neighborhood" described is 7 square blocks and a parklet (actually less than that since the blocks are "square" but get narrower as they go uptown)
 * 5. The article says "The movement (to start a new neigborhood) was started in August 2010 by a local resident who was dissatisfied with the lack of clarity about which neighborhood the area belonged to" - obviously, the person who created this article
 * 6. This is confirmed by the logo in the article, which was uploaded to Commons by the author of the article as "own work" . Given the text in the logo, the author apparently objects to his or her neighborhood being included in Chinatown.
 * 7. Confirmation also from the author's comments here: "I have spent a considerable amount of my free time trying to launch this campaign", a tacit admission that the neighborhood does not exist

It's difficult enough to write articles about NYC neighborhoods -- because they have no official boundaries, which are determined instead by usage -- without jokes like this confusing the issue. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't believe this is a hoax per se, but the main part of the article is unsourced. (The neighborhood described in this article may consist of actual locations in New York City, but there is no clear evidence that they are called "SoNoLita".) Furthermore, the creator of the article appears to have a conflict of interest in that they may be the person trying to campaign for the recognition of this neighborhood under the "SoNoLita" name. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:13, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * All the places in the article exist: the streets, the buildings, etc. They are just not the part of a "neighborhood" named SoNoLita, which, as far as I can tell, does not exist, and for which the creator of the article provides no rferences whatsoever. If this is not a deliberate hoax, then it's an attempt to use Wikipedia to promote someone's pet project, as should be deleted as being promotional. If the author's campaign is successful, then perhaps the neighborhood would be qualified to have an article. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:17, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Neutral notification of this discussion has been made to Wikiproject NYC, here Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:33, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete; fails minimum verifiability requirements -- since there's no independent reliable source that even mentions it. Antandrus (talk) 17:40, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Jimmy Pitt   talk  18:49, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - I can't find any evidence of this designation for already existing and named neighborhoods, either formal or informal. --Oakshade (talk) 19:01, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - The author has made changes to the article, so that is now about a "proposed" new neighborhood, and I extended these edits, removing any extensive statements of fact which were not sourced. However, what remains is still an unsourced lede about a campaign to make anew neighborhood, with no verification that the campiagn actually exists, and still nothing to show that it's been referred to in any reliable source. Even in this somewhat stripped down state, the article does not pass WP:V. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:03, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:43, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.