Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sober Nation


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:10, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Sober Nation

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Only independent source is about the organization's founder, so it doesn't meet the notability standard for companies. Conifer (talk ) 19:13, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, the articles may use the organization's founder as a jumping off point, but they are still substantially about Sober Nation as well, meriting at least a short stub article such as this one. Macrowriter (talk) 20:57, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:42, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
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New independent source added from Baltimore City Paper that is about the organization. There are now two independent, serious references to the company. It does meet the notability standard for companies. • Ridleyjr (talk) 14:15, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The Cape Cod Times article is entirely about the founder, with only a passing mention of the website itself. The Baltimore City Paper article has a mention of a top-10 list the organization put out. Neither of these are in-depth articles required to attain notability. Conifer (talk ) 18:28, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

New independent source added from another addiction recovery group that details what Sober Nation does. That now makes 3 independent sources discussing the company, its founder, and its mission. Those three sources include two serious, credible newspapers and another prominent addiction recovery group. It does meet the notability standard for companies. If it doesn't, please outline what additional citations you would need to see to reach a consensus. • Ridleyjr (talk) 14:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The only source that actually explores the company in-depth is the page from the other addiction group, which is of questionable reliability (it's not a newspaper nor a subject-specific publication). Even if that was considered a substantive reference, there must be significant coverage to pass WP:ORG, not just one source. Conifer (talk ) 21:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - none of the references provided qualify as reliable sources. I find a few bloggish sites (which only reference Stoddert as the founder and which suggest it is also a clothing company?) but that don't seem to be authoritative or sufficient in number to support notability.--Rpclod (talk) 03:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - this company is regularly listed on university sites as a resource for alcohol and drug treatment. I edited the page to reflect the three examples I could find, though I'm sure there are others I'm missing as well. (alternate account for Ridleyjr) • FlagSkiier (talk) 6:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete promo advert of the website/organization, no in-depth coverage anywhere, the sources are trivial mentions at best, and one is about the alleged founder, but just mentions the name of the org. fails WP:CORPDEPTH. Kraxler (talk) 19:56, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, S warm   we ♥ our hive  06:30, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Spam about a non-notable company. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:43, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


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