Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soccor Velho


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The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 08:58, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Soccor Velho

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Page passes WP:NFOOTY but he fails WP:GNG and usually what happens is that GNG is dropped if the player is young as his page will be expanded upon over time but this player is older (29) and is in the end of his career and currently we know nothing about him. No stats, no biographic information. Nothing that really adds something to the encyclopedia. ArsenalFan700 (talk) 22:20, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I am also nominating the follow pages for the same reason:
 * Vijith Shetty
 * Creson Antao
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 23:24, 9 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - very basic articles that fail GNG - this recent AfD, also on an Indian footballer, closed with the consensus that technically meeting NFOOTBALL through 1 or 2 pro appearances was not enough when the article so comprehensively fails GNG. GiantSnowman 23:26, 9 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Nominator Comment: I would like to drop Vijith Shetty from this AfD as he is the current captain of his club. I can use that to expand the article out. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:22, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep all. Nominator has withdrawn Vijith Shetty from the nomination. Soccor Velho is hardly a player with 1 or 2 appearances about whom we know nothing. Click the Google news link at the top of this page and we find six pages of results, in reputable newspapers, going back to 2005. OK, they're match reports: what do you expect for a sportsperson? But there's plenty to start making a half-decent article on the subject if anyone wanted to, and a player with an 8+ year career at the top level in India can't have avoided personal coverage if one knew where to look. Creson Antao was playing for Dempo when they reached the semifinals of the AFC Cup in 2008 and was still playing for them as they won the I-League in 2012. Here is a lengthy article from just last year, which starts off "Defender Creson Antao has emerged as ‘Mr Dependable’ for the newly-crowned I-League champs Dempo Sports Club..." and is devoted to that player. I'm a little concerned at the absence of WP:BEFORE about this nomination. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:46, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I will drop Creson then because I also found a Dempo page with info on him but I will keep Soccor. The thing is that when Soccor started playing professional football the I-League was not professional and no one cared. Even when the professional I-League began no one cared. Then when India played in the 2011 AFC Asian Cup that is when people started to care. And that is also when websites decided to do profiles or interviews but mainly with the younger players. The only time an older player, like Soccor, would get a profile or interview for us to know more about him is if he is an international or if your club actually does profiles on their website. Other than that no one cares about the player sadly.


 * I will see what I can do but I am keeping Soccor in this discussion. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 13:04, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LlamaAl (talk) 00:00, 16 February 2013 (UTC)




 * Keep as per Struway. I accept the articles are brief but it appears GS is wrong about the players having played only one or two games. This nomination is a mess too and comments like "no one cared" are hardly what is needed in AfD. The players have had substantial careers in what is now a professional league, it seems reasonable to assume that there will be offline sources available to assist in enhancing the article. Fenix down (talk) 09:25, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - no adequate reason proposed for deletion. Keep all. Offline sources are likely to exist confirming and detailing further aspects about this player's career. C 679 09:10, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
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