Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Socialist Action (United States)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.  Sandstein  19:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Socialist Action (United States)

 * – ( View AfD View log | edits since nomination)

An extremely minor and unimportant socialist party with no elected officeholders (aside from a single victory in a non-partisan race by an apparent party member) or history of anything resembling ballot access, let alone electoral success. The vast majority of sources are to the party's website or Ballot-access.org. Among the remaining sources, source 15 doesn't mention the party at all and source and source 16 doesn't mention them either. Any other mentions appear to be glancing, with no real detail on anything other than the fact the party evidently exists. Any useful information can surely be merged into other Trotskyist articles. Toa Nidhiki05 15:57, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics,  and California.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep - The Alexander source is the standard for Trotskyist groups; it is reliable and provides substantial information on the group. Klehr looks like another substantial, independent, source. Material sourced to the party itself might benefit from trimming, but that's no reason to delete. Warofdreams talk 16:51, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * The Kiehr source appears to be a dictionary-style entry in a comprehensive collection of almost every American Trotskyist group under the sun. Per WP:ORGDEPTH ("inclusion in collections that have indiscriminate inclusion criteria"), this likely doesn't qualify as independent sourcing. Toa Nidhiki05 17:33, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Warofdreams. This book, which is easily findable by following the required action of looking for sources before mass nominating articles, discusses SA extensively. Your opinion that Socialist Action is "extremely minor and unimportant" is not relevant here.--User:Namiba 13:54, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Present content is not an indicator of notability. Discussed over 1.5 pages in Alexander's International Trotskyism (Duke UP, 1991), the key *reference* text of Trotskyism in the 20th Century, it is not "indiscriminate". Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 11:29, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.