Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SoftwareFreedomKosovo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The threshold for inclusion of an article on a topic in Wikipedia is that that topic be important or laudable, it is that it has received significant coverage in independent reliable sources. The burden of proof is on those editors seeking to retain the article to show that these sources exist. Unfortunately in this instance that has not been achieved. Skomorokh 14:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Software Freedom Kosova

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Not yet notable: a local conference organised for the first time. Miym (talk) 17:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

It is notable because for the first time, Government, Education and University supported Free Software, Wikipedia and other projects in Kosovo. We had speeches about wikipedia and open course ware. Also there are numerous references in google dev calendar, linux journal calendar. We have signed a memorandum of understanding with the University. There are plans for next year. We also have to include FLOSSK into this article. The name of the conference is SFK Software Freedome Kosova. Not Kosovo. please change. The conference was in the TV, newspaper and all over. Blogged about. We are working on the videos. Mdupont (talk) 05:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - How can you decide to delete it on the day of its event?

Mdupont (talk) 05:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - It was covered by one of the most accomplished newspaper in Kosova, Koha Ditore. --Aeternus (talk) 17:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Covered in what degree of detail? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 23:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * See Koha Ditore article on SoftwareFreedomKosova. --Aeternus (talk) 18:35, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - It is not a local conference but an international one, organized for the first time. It is going to have international speakers, among them Richard Stallman.  kedadi al  22:47, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sources? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 23:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, according to Speaker's Bio RMS won't be part of the conference. I know that he was invited and as far as I know he accepted to be part of the conference, but things seem to have change in the mean time. Maybe User:Mdupont as a founder of the conference can clarify the situation regarding RMS a little bit more as I personally am not affiliated in any way with the conference and I didn't follow their lists for a pretty long time now. Thank you.  kedadi al  23:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.  -- Cyber cobra  (talk) 06:47, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
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 * Keep - More than 400 people were there. --Heroidshehu (talk) 07:46, 01 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - There were actually over 500 people registered, 40 topics and 20 international speakers. The shortcomings can be fixed. This was the biggest FLOSS gathering to have ever happened in the Balkans. 82.114.80.218 (talk) 09:26, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - I think it would help a lot if those who want to keep this article could provide concrete examples of how this event was covered in media, in English. Don't just say that the conference was "all over", provide concrete references. If the original sources are not in English, could you perhaps give a translation of a short excerpt so that others can more easily get an idea of the content? Currently, the article has 4 links to sources. However, only 1 of them is in English, and this particular article seems to be written by Arianit Dobroshi who also seems to be affiliated with the conference ; therefore I cannot take it as a source that is "independent of the subject", as required by WP:N. — Miym (talk) 21:47, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Covering event in English is not necessary for relevance of one event. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 09:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm sorry, but I can not see how this even comes close to meeting inclusion criteria. Such coverage as has been mentioned here is pretty clearly the type of routine coverage contemplated by WP:NOTNEWS. It isn't notable based on English language sources, and while I normally prefer to err in favor of inclusion in possible language-bias cases, the fact that this was the first year of the conference makes me feel pretty comforatable that there is no there there.Xymmax  So let it be written   So let it be done  03:41, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Skomorokh  12:36, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per the lack of reliable sources. Aeternus's link to the Koha Ditore article fails to show how this passes WP:N. The article appears to be a press release or community announcement; this does not establish notability. I may be wrong because I can't read the language of the article, so if someone can provide a translation of it, my views about the Koha Ditore article may change.  kedadi al  's arguments fall afoul of WP:INHERITED, while  and 's arguments fall afoul of WP:BIGNUMBER. I would reconsider my vote if more sources could be found; however, at the moment, I cannot see how the current sources are sufficient to pass WP:N. Cunard (talk) 07:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - The event has been great, with a lot of people and mainly with some very good speach from everywere in the World. It has been nice to see a lot of very young people directly involved and so enthusiastic! They will do, next year, the first Software Freedom Conference for Balcans! Many politicians did and will support the event! Flavia Marzano (talk • contribs) 13:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Regionally relevant event. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 09:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - roberto galoppini write http://robertogaloppini.net/2009/06/25/kosova-sfck09-the-first-free-software-freedom-conference-of-kosovo/ Mdupont (talk) 09:42, 10 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm canvasing http://groups.google.com/group/free-software-conference/browse_thread/thread/869f79133e06305d/407ec7d2a8c45cb2 .©Geni 17:09, 10 September 2009 (UTC)


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