Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sol (Laptop)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Close per SNOW. I'm not closing this necessarily as "speedy" since I read the nomination statement, short as it is, as an equivalent to "pure spam which needs to be rewritten entirely etc". Having said that, though, consensus for this to be kept is clear and there is no need to keep this open longer. Drmies (talk) 18:50, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Sol (Laptop)

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advertising by the founder of the company The Banner talk 11:01, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * In fact the second nomination, as the first was this one: Articles for deletion/WeWi. The owner and his wingman keep going on with adding this piece of advertising in other articles. The Banner talk 11:07, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - meets WP:GNG based on the sources in the article, let alone looking elsewhere; Banner, please stop nominating articles without checking if they're actually about notable things or not, just because they are slightly promotional. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 12:51, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I swallow that Sol is being seen as notable but the company is not-notable as stated in the outcome of the last AfD. And this article is revert back to the company by the founder and owner of that company. The Banner talk 13:15, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That's because you went about things in entirely the wrong way. Instead of rewriting the article properly, you left it in an awful state, not even bothering to add it into any categories... Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 13:18, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * At least I did an attempt to remove spam and irrelevant info. But stating that the failure to add categories is a proper excuse for the owner/founder/author to reinstate all the mess, makes me sick and sad. The Banner talk 13:28, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Where did I say it was a proper excuse? The fact is, it was obvious that the mess you left was always going to force the hand of the company, especially when you neglected even the very basic things, like categories. If you'd done it properly, it would've been far less likely that you would've been reverted; and if you had been reverted, you'd have had a much stronger ground to stand on. The article isn't even particularly spammy right now. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 13:35, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You clearly endorse it by refusing to act against it. And the present article is just a failure to adhere to the outcome of the first AfD. The Banner talk 13:42, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * As I and others have pointed out, AfD is not cleanup. I do not "endorse" the current article, and your attempts at manipulation are a discredit to yourself. To be blunt, the present article is better than the hash you produced. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 13:46, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Meets WP:GNG and recently survived AfD under different name (Articles for deletion/WeWi). While there's no rule against renominating an article, it's arguably disruptive to renominate without answering any of the opposing arguments from the previous AfD. Nominator has also been involved in content/editing disputes over the article. --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:54, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The conclusion was: The result was Move to Sol (laptop) and make a redirect . But now the article is again about the non-notable company WeWi. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 13:13, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I see no good rationale to delete this article.--Jeffrd10 (talk) 13:05, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * In fact, the founder and owner of the company has reverted the article about the laptop to an article about the company. That means that he makes an unpolite gesture with the middle finger to everyone involved in the first AfD which concluded that the laptop was notable but the company was not notable: The result was Move to Sol (laptop) and make a redirect. Now we have to do the whole discussion all over again because the founder/owner/author refuses to accept the outcome of the first nomination. All the fuss about Wiki-PR will be utterly useless when you don't act against this type of promotion/advertising. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 13:13, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I respect your argument however even if this article is written by the founder of the company the article still meets wp:GNG and should not be deleted. If you feel like the author is give us the middle finger then talk to him or tell an admin don't Delete his work.--Jeffrd10 (talk) 14:06, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:48, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:48, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Flagrant COI, sockpuppetry and overt support from people who know better aside, the laptop itself is probably semi-notable, with five secondary sources covering it. If there's a suitable merge target then so be it, but it's a waste of effort going through multiple AfDs. That said, the puppets should be cluebatted promptly. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:04, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per the original AfD; the issues highlighted in that discussion have not been resolved, but there are no new issues being presented here, and the article can be fixed. It appears nobody has made a serious attempt at this point. As established previously, the laptop is notable, the company is not. Also, I respectfully suggest both and  step away from editing this article so the page can be cleaned up by neutral editors without being tainted by their ongoing edit war. Ivanvector (talk) 15:40, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Now DSNR is starting to accuse me of vandalism while vandalizing himself, I have to step back anyway because he is creeping under my skin. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 16:01, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Snow Keep - The topic clearly passes WP:GNG. Examples of reliable sources that provide significant coverage include:, , , . Northamerica1000(talk) 16:04, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable and survived a very recent AfD by the same nominator as this one. Renominating this soon is disruptive, as is replacing an article with eight sources, with an article with two sources, one of which is the Daily mail (which is not a RS).Martin 4 5 1  16:23, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Same as others commenting here. CorporateM (Talk) 18:43, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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