Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solar Power (song)


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The result was keep as the single has just been released.  Schwede 66  22:47, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Solar Power (song)

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There has been no confirmation of any single, album or any other type of release from Lorde or anyone else. Some media outlets reporting that this could be a teaser for a song does not mean that this is an upcoming release from Lorde. Confirmation should be awaited here. LivelyRatification (talk) 00:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Expanding on this a tad, a number of outlets have indeed reported this as "Lorde releasing new single". The AV Club reported it based on the fact that she "updated her website with the new single title and cheeky cover art." The only problem is her website, at the time of writing, doesn't mention that. There's an image of her, with Solar Power captioned, and the text "ARRIVING IN 2021 … PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE". Vulture, which is cited in the article, says only that she's teasing a single, and saying that "the New Zealand pop star updated her website on June 7, seeming to confirm her long-rumored new single “Solar Power”". I'm not going to continue with this, but from what I can see, these are all based off the mere fact that she updated her website, which contains no confirmation of anything. Some outlets, such as the NZ Herald and Stuff, also reported this as "Lorde releases new album" with the exact same evidence. It's just picking the best type of clickbait for the fact that she updated her website, and doesn't mean that she is releasing anything. We should wait for actual confirmation. --LivelyRatification (talk) 00:54, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: while I am 99.9% sure this is going to be a single, I don't want this to turn into another Happier Than Ever situation where we could have (and probably did) spread misinformation to tons of people. The safest option is to delete. Redirection is still a problem as the title has the "(song)" disambiguator, and moving to "Solar Power (upcoming Lorde project)" doesn't seem like a plausible search term. It's best to just wait for further confirmation. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 01:09, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Changing my vote to Redirect per, which is a dead link but it confirms that the song is in fact a song. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 16:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Changing my vote again, this time to Keep, as the song is notable/will become notable before this AfD is scheduled to end in five days. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 22:15, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Don't delete: Her website is confirmation. There is absolutely nothing, an absolute 0% chance that this is anything other than a single, and whether she is releasing a single called "Solar Power" or not is not a subject of debate. While I understand that it has not explicitly been said, there is no other plausible explanation for an image (which looks like a song cover, with the same aspect ratio) by a singer who is expected to return, saying that Solar Power is "arriving in 2021". As well, despite "music insiders" (people who leak stuff before officially out) are not the greatest measure to go by, it has been stated that she will release a single titled Solar Power several days ago, before any official update by Lorde. With her producer Jack Antonoff posting it too, we know it is a "project" (single) they have likely both been working on. Keeping the page up is the best option here, since the page will inevitably exist once the song is out! C.monarchist28 (let's chat!) 02:08, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Who says it's not an album cover? Just because there's been rumours that she might release a single called "Solar Power", and she posts what looks like cover art, doesn't mean that she is releasing a single. There's no reason that we can't just wait until the single is actually confirmed by reliable sources to make an article. Regardless of what "insiders" say, the only reliable source we have currently is Lorde, who has not explicitly confirmed anything. The only thing we know for sure is that there's an image on her website. --LivelyRatification (talk) 02:19, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Look above. All the insiders thought "Happier Than Ever" was a Billie Eilish single, not an album. Wikipedia also thought it was a single. Then, a day after the initial announcement, Eilish confirmed that Happier Than Ever was the album, and that the title track was just a song. Insiders said it would be her comeback single. And, what's worse, Wikipedia thought it was a single, and we had misinformation on the site for a good 24 hours. This is the exact same situation. A vague teaser, speculation from the fans, speculation from sources, etc. Her website provides one sentence that doesn't say "Solar Power" anywhere, sources are vague (we have sources calling it an album, but there isn't a Solar Power (album) page), and the cover could be an album cover. Could you provide the reliable source where you heard this was a single days before the update? Last but not least: Antonoff posting affects nothing, as he could be posting about a song or an album. Project doesn't mean single. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 02:21, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, here is an example of a tweet of the insider source on June 2, a week ago talking about a single called Solar Power. Again, I understand this is only an insider source, and I somewhat get the want to delete the page as it has not been explicitly confirmed, however absolutely all of the evidence leads to one direction, and I would almost call it silly to assume it is anything but a single. -- C.monarchist28 (talk) 02:54, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * One side of me agrees with you when you say it is silly to assume it is anything but a single, as all the evidence points to that, but the Wikipedian side of me needs a reliable source to believe this is true. There is just no way to prove that this is true at this time. I have seen multiple of those Twitter posts talking about those exact songs, and, while I have to admit they do have a pretty good reputation, they are not acceptable sources to use on Wikipedia, so I will not let that affect my decision, and you shouldn't either. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 03:09, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:56, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:56, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. As soon as anything's confirmed, I'm sure Pitchfork, BrooklynVegan, etc. will be all over it. Until then, it's all random speculation.  Kncny11  (shoot) 19:29, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete without a doubt – no official confirmation on this or what it actually is at all. - Peterpie123rww (talk) 01:20, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment For what it's worth, Stuff—one of the major NZ news outlets—did have the headline yesterday "Lorde confirms new album Solar Power is coming this year with some NSFW cover art". Just to inform the debate; I don't have an opinion on the AfD matter.  Schwede 66  05:29, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above comments. It is best to wait until an official confirmation is out there before an article is created. Aoba47 (talk) 19:23, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Changing my comment to redirect to Lorde per Nate. Aoba47 (talk) 14:37, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Lorde As a plausible redirect for now, whether it would be an album or song. If it doesn't turn out to be a song title when the album is released, this is much easier PRODed later on.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:54, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep As it stands now, this is, in fact, a single. Even though I initially created the article, I was also leaning towards delete since the information given by her website and the way music publications interpreted it varied greatly. However, the song appeared briefly on streaming platforms. Some sites are reporting this too. De88 (talk) 20:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as it is obvious that the song is being released as a single if not today, in the coming days. And we also have to knowledge the fact that it was actually released, even if it was for a couple minutes. I already found an article from a reputable source that has all the coverage, which I already included on the article. Anonpediann (talk) 20:42, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * And another source. Anonpediann (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Lorde, at least until the date's confirmed. Fails WP:CRYSTAL in its current form.  ×°˜`°× ηαη¢у  ×°˜`°×  21:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC) Well this aged like milk!  ×°˜`°×  ηαη¢у  ×°˜`°×  22:34, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment In light of the new information, I'd like to clarify that I don't have an issue with just redirecting the article to Lorde's discography, I think that's an acceptable solution. I don't really think the leak changes that much, tbh. We still have no confirmation that the song is going to be released by Lorde, she hasn't confirmed anything yet. In the absence of all these "insiders" speculating and her website updating, would "a song was leaked for 5 minutes and then abruptly taken down" be notable? No, of course not. Just because Lorde was teasing new music doesn't mean that we can now go "yep, Solar Power is coming, keep the article". There's no harm done if we just wait until she actually releases it. --LivelyRatification (talk) 21:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It just released, consider all of that withdrawn. --LivelyRatification (talk) 22:12, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment: The song in question is currently being premiered on Triple J as I type this. Do with that information what you will. Sean Stephens (talk) 22:46, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.