Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solitaire Meissmer disappearance (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Aoidh (talk) 04:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Solitaire Meissmer disappearance
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A personal event that got brief media attention but no WP:sustained coverage, with no WP:lasting significance. Fails the WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT. (Also, the article is misnamed. It is not a disappearance, as the victim's body had been positively identified long before.) Paul_012 (talk) 20:05, 11 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 12:52, 19 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 12:57, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions. Paul_012 (talk) 20:05, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:25, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge. This page is in Category:Victims of the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami, with a dozen more. They didn't exist before the tsunami, so while many of them are notably on their own, some may fall under WP:SINGLEEVENT, too. I'm thinking primarily of the Baby 81 incident, Robert Whymant, and Kristina Fröjmark, but I haven't checked deeply. Maybe it makes sense to merge them together with the article under discussion in the new Victims of the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami page or a section of the existing 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami article. Suitskvarts (talk) 15:26, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Not quite sure about that. Shouldn't inclusion in such lists usually be limited to individually notable people anyway? In any case, notability for this subject seems too tenuous even for that. It seems to have been quickly dropped from the news when it became apparent that it's really a case of parents' clinging on to false hope, sympathetic though it may be. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:43, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: I've renamed the article to Solitaire Meissmer. It was originally moved away from this title over BLP concerns, which should not be the case now. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * (In future, please don't move/rename pages while the AfD is still under discussion. It confuses the automated closing gadgets.) Joyous! Noise! 19:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Hopefully the final relist. Nobody has argued for keeping the article, but there's no real agreement on whether it should be deleted or merged. If it's merged, what is the merge target? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aoidh (talk) 12:35, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Just in case anyone's still interested after 15 years, pinging those participants from the previous AfD who are still somewhat active (though I doubt most will see the ping before this expires): JzG, RichardWeiss, Eusebeus, Viridae and DeLarge. --Paul_012 (talk) 19:10, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Smerge or nuke. This is not an independently notable subject. As you'd expect, given her age, 100% of the coverage is in the context of the tsunami, and it will almost certainly never be any different. Guy (help! - typo?) 14:15, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete If the person wasn't notable before the event, passing away doesn't make them notable. One of many victims, sadly. Oaktree b (talk) 13:03, 5 April 2023 (UTC)


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