Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Somatemps


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. DIscussion created by a (now blocked) sock. No prejudice against re-nomination if other editors deem appropriate. StarM 01:19, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Somatemps
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There are no clear sources discussing this organization directly, which seems to be nothing more than a local group of friends in Barcelona who oppose independence. They are not on Spanish Wikipedia, they do not have an actual website outside a Mexican website which is not clear is theirs. It seems to have been blown up to be some kind of paramilitary gestapo by pro-Catalan independence people who want to slander other larger organizations such as Societat Civil Catalana. The emphasis is claiming they are "far right" where this is not backed by any credible source, this so they can claim SCC was "founded by far right folks". Its not a political party. There is not one source I see which tackles their existence directly. Astroturfing coming from activists, without a doubt. Miska5DT (talk) 15:48, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2018 July 20.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 16:07, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


 * The article is well sourced. The user asking for deletion has not even read the sources, has not used a translator and has not used the talk page of the article. Aditionally he has made multiple reversions of the article doing more than three reversions. A discussion about Somatemps being far-right ocurred in the talk page of Societat Civil Catalana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Societat_Civil_Catalana#Somatemps_is_far-right). The sources uncontested in that talk page have been used in the Somatemps article. They are Spanish sources which corroborate Somatemps being far-right and colaborating in the foundation of Societat Civil Catalana. Filiprino (talk) 16:11, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The "discussion" involves a statement by yourself, Filiprino, nothing more. I appreciate if you stop trying to delete the proposal for deletion tag, this way we wont have to take it to noticeboard. I evidently don't need a translator for Castilian or Catalan.Miska5DT (talk) 16:17, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nobody contested those sources. You have not contested those sources. If you want to challenge information, use the talk page. The same has happened to you with the article Catalan Independence Movement where you have been reverted multiple times (see diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Catalan_independence_movement&diff=next&oldid=851044128). Deletion policies clearly state to first use the talk page and try to solve the issue. Filiprino (talk) 16:21, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Addendum, do you realise that you have wrongly put the template and that this page is also wrong? Additionally, it seems to me that you can't read Castilian or Catalan. Filiprino (talk) 16:27, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep - This is clearly a notable group, and it has been covered by the likes of El Mundo. Thus, the information is clearly verifiable, and the article should be kept. RileyBugz 私に叫ぼう私の編集 21:41, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * CommentUser:RileyBugz http://www.elmundo.es/cataluna/2017/09/27/59cab92b468aebb9798b4687.html El Mundo describes them as a curiosity of a group of friends who buys ham for policemen. That is the only reliable souce we have here for an article which describes them as a scary and "notable" Far right organization". Please...Miska5DT (talk) 10:36, 23 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - The article is well sourced. ElDiario, ElPais, HuffingtonPost, ElMundo, ElTemps, Antena3, ElNacional, La Vanguardia, The Atlantic ... without sensationalism. The reasons given by the user who proposed the deletion apparently do not fit any of the reasons given by the deletion guidelines, available in WP:DEL-REASON — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filiprino (talk • contribs) 23:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * CommentNone of these mentioned sources say anything about Somatemps, so the statement above is factually incorrect. Not one single statement. Clear notability issues, as well as plain astroturfing. Miska5DT (talk) 10:32, 23 July 2018 (UTC)


 * The user who created this page has been blocked indefinitely due to sock puppetry. Shouldn't this deletion request be removed? Thanks. Filiprino (talk) 14:10, 24 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep – The nominator is a sockpuppet of a blocked user, so he/she was not supposed to be able to edit, much less to fill a deletion request.  Impru20 talk 20:46, 24 July 2018 (UTC)


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