Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sonia Smith (politician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. j⚛e deckertalk 05:45, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Sonia Smith (politician)

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Minor figure whose only claim to notability is her candidature in a state election later this year, where her chances are minimal. Fails WP:POLITICIAN and does not qualify under WP:GNG. Frickeg (talk) 08:19, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Frickeg (talk) 08:21, 20 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Should have been speedied, decided to err on the side of going to PROD instead and was removed. No realistic claim to notability. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 11:33, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
 * delete merely a political candidate. Fails WP:POLITICIAN. LibStar (talk) 13:28, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nomination. Ms Smith will become notable if she's elected, or if she does multiple things which attract significant levels of media coverage, but that doesn't seem to be the case at present. Nick-D (talk) 00:57, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, way to early, and there's not anything yet beyond the routine coverage that you'd usually expect to see for a political candidate. Article should of course be re-created in the event that she does get herself elected.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 02:53, 21 April 2014 (UTC).
 * Keep Ms Smith has done multiple things to attract media coverage. She has been featured on the ABC (http://blogs.abc.net.au/victoria/2013/08/an-australian-century.html) and the people for deleting the page have not proven that she has a "minimal chance". 101.172.42.162 (talk) 04:01, 21 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO and there is not any category. Rinfoli   { *Di§cu$ with me"# } 12:09, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per past precedent at WP:POLOUTCOMES and WP:CRYSTAL. Bearian (talk) 19:15, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per longstanding consensus for unelected politicians. Carrite (talk) 16:36, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete In the event she wins the race, a new article can be created.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The fact that an unelected candidate gets her name into a bit of news coverage when her candidacy is announced does not make her notable enough for a Wikipedia article — local media have an obligation to cover local politics, so every candidate in any election will get some form of media coverage. Our inclusion rules on here, however, require that in most cases a politician must win election to office, not just run for it, to become notable enough. An unelected candidate still has the possibility to be notable enough if you can adequately demonstrate and source that she was already notable enough for an article before she was selected as a candidate, but does not qualify for an article on here just because of a couple of news articles about her candidacy itself. And also, it doesn't actually matter whether her chances of winning the election are "minimal" or "maximal"; Wikipedia does not deal in the realm of election predictions, so it's irrelevant how much chance anyone thinks she does or doesn't have of winning. Even "is overwhelmingly favoured to win" does not count for beans as a notability claim on here — either you verifiably prove that she did win the election after the ballots are counted, or you've got nothing. Delete — she'll qualify for an article if she wins the seat, but does not merit one just for having her name on the ballot. Bearcat (talk) 18:07, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Running for election is arguably a WP:BLP1E case. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:44, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
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