Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sonic X (comics)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Sonic X. j⚛e deckertalk 16:04, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Sonic X (comics)

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There is no significant coverage in reliable sources to establish notability for this comic series. This comic series is actually a spin-off of another, notable comic series. The article is completely unsourced, and no sources are available elsewhere. This title is not suitable as a redirect because "(comics)" with parentheses is not a likely search term. Mz7 (talk) 04:45, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - Obviously needs cites added, but appears WP:GNG. Merging it to another article would cause a WP:TOOLONG issue. VMS Mosaic (talk) 11:40, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:04, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * Merge Keep  - I'm not real familiar with any guidelines specific to comics, but with most other mediums, a long-term, nationally and officially published product with a notable IP, is going to have enough coverage to meet the WP:GNG. True, it's in terrible shape, but AFD is WP:NOTCLEANUP. Sergecross73   msg me   15:13, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I disagree. The mere fact that a comic is published by a notable publisher for a few years does not necessarily grant it significant coverage. It is parallel to books. Just because a book is nationally published does not necessarily mean in itself that the book is notable. It needs significant coverage in critic reviews and other reliable sources. Sonic X is an example of a comic series that doesn't have that coverage, even if it is nationally published. Mz7 (talk) 01:18, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Have you considered a merge or redirection since either the main comic series or Sonic X appear to be likely targets.--70.49.72.34 (talk) 03:34, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The "(comics)" in parentheses doesn't seem like a likely search term for a redirect. I guess I'd be OK with selectively merging content to the article about the main series. (It wouldn't make the article too long if we select only the most relevant parts of the article to merge.) --Mz7 (talk) 03:43, 9 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 08:16, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge. This seems like a good candidate to merge. There's not so much material here that it can't be merged. The article is start-class at best. So, I disagree that it would make the main Sonic X article too long. If need be, to keep it brief, the in universe material could be trimmed. -- GentlemanGhost  (converse)  21:49, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * DELETE No notability, no reliable independent sources. Reads like OR. Delete and restore only when reliable sources are provided. Doduf (talk) 03:36, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with the "merge" stances, but I at least understand them. I don't understand a straight up delete though. Its a nationally published product (comic) of a decade spanning worldwide intellectual property (Sonic the Hedgehog (series)), and even has a sensible merge/redirect target. Sergecross73   msg me   19:28, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * True, it was a comic about Sonic the Hedgehog, nationally published for three years. However, this comic does not inherit notability just because it is about Sonic the Hedgehog. The bottom line for notability is sources, and we need a significant amount of them. It doesn't matter if these sources are from 2005 or these sources were published yesterday. The bottom line for this deletion nomination is that there is no such coverage available to warrant a standalone article about this comic series. Mz7 (talk) 23:35, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge per GentlemanGhost. Even though it's based upon a notable anime and published by a notable publisher, that doesn't automatically make it notable; sources still need to be found and not many reliable ones exist for Sonic X (though I'm unfamiliar with comics so I may be wrong). satellizer   (talk  -  contributions)  21:02, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:39, 25 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge selectively into the "Other media" section of Sonic X. I was surprised to find no coverage in reliable sources, and with that appearing to be the case with others, I think this can be adequately covered within the article on the anime series without crossing the WP:UNDUE line.  Gong   show  03:51, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've changed my stance due to this. I was shocked not to be able to find anything, but I just haven't. I thought it was maybe just because I don't usually work on comic books and didn't know the sources, but there really hasn't even been anything that even seems possibly a reliable source. Its all Wikias, Youtube videos, and torrents, nothing remotely resembling a reliable source. It should be merged to the anime's article, I believe they're pretty closely related, so there shouldn't be any problems with WP:UNDUE if its handled right. (They have largely the same premise, characters, etc, I believe.) Sergecross73   msg me   18:26, 25 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge; I don't usually make votes like this, but the article seems to have little hope of third-party sourcing and looks like it will fit just fine into the main Sonic X article. Tezero (talk) 03:49, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.