Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sonnet mondal


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 08:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Sonnet mondal

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Contested speedy. Mondal is an active self-promoter - it seems he imagines he's surpassed figures like Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay, Ramprasad Sen and Rabindranath Tagore to become the national poet at age 17. Regardless, we're under no obligation to help him further his quest for recognition, something reliable secondary sources have conspicuously failed to accord him. Biruitorul Talk 19:01, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 22:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  —SpacemanSpiff (talk) 04:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * But the mentioned links in the article are true.And he does have many published works.And his poems too are very nice so this article should be kept.And if you want to delethis article then you must delete the article of Biplab Majeeand many others which do not site any reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.162.37 (talk) 05:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC) — 59.93.162.37 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Speedy Delete I just read a poem of his. j/k. First I've heard of this person and there are some notable poets in India currently who are featured in the media pretty often. His book of poems, cover price $1. If I remember correctly, and there should be some listing somewhere, I just haven't been able to find it, "National Poet" is not a title bestowed in India any longer. I've gone through 10 pages of Google search looking for some credible references, nothing at all. This should clearly be an A7. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 05:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Appears to be a vanity page with unreferenced tall claims. Absolutely nothing here. Salih  ( talk ) 06:54, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Claims to have recieved a number of awards but there are a few problems: none of the awards listed are referenced. Some of the honours are mere letters of appreciation and cannot be counted as honours. Other so-called awards are from small district level organizations which are not difficult to qualify for. Claims to be Listed in the 2000 Outstanding Intellectuals of the 21st Century of International Biographical Centre,Cambridge,England,2008. and 3 other awards from the same institution. Here's the Breaking news: The article on International Biographical Centre states: The IBC specializes in creating "awards" and offering them to many.[3] Awards cost the recipient between US$500 and $1495 each, depending on its claimed prestige.[4]--Deepak D'Souza 09:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Do not Delete, nowhere in the article it is mentioned that he is a national poet of India.In some google pages it may be mentioned but they may be created by different persons.I have heard him in my city and he truly deserves to be here.In his weblogweblog of sonnet also, there are pictures where he have been flashed in the media and he also have pictures with eminent poet like Subodh Sarkar who inaugurated his book.So he should be here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.245.204 (talk) 14:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC) — 59.93.245.204 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * CommentDon't you just love Geolocate. Both IP addresses resolve to Calcutta, the capital of Mondol's home state. Ignore above vote --Deepak D'Souza 17:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Donot delete: The IP adresses are different though from Kolkata.Mondal is a poet fom west bengal ,so its natural that people there know him well.Ihave also seen hs book inauguration program at Kolkata press club where eminent and high ranking personalities appreciated his poems.Its tue that his weblog has also prrofs along with photographs.So my request is not to delete this article.There is one saying poets and pigs get recognition ater their dath.Wikipedia should help emerging poets so that people may know them and compared to mondal's age his achievements are great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.86.85 (talk) 20:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC) — 220.225.86.85 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment. No dear, I did not ask that above vote be ignored because it was from West Bengal. There is no such rule. The reason is that there is a very good chance that the three anonymous edits are done by the subject of the article itself. Now watch the denials come in. On second thoughts, don't even bother, we see that pattern all the time. Also please understand that Wikipedia is not a democracy. Changing IP addresses and posting "do not delete" wont help.The final decision depends on Wikipedia's rules of notability. Awards from questionable sources(that too unreferenced), do not help. Mondol's achievements, you say?? two books(with unknown circulation) do not make a poet; nor do paid awards. And Wikipedia is not here to help upcomming poets or writers or researchers. --Deepak D'Souza 04:56, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete No independent verification of any claims of notability. Frankly, the hyperbolic claims in the article serve as flashing warning lights, and do not help its credibility. No hits on google books or worldcat. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be hoax or college prank. Abecedare (talk) 21:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No Deletion: Hey,Look at this press release made from HOPE International.International Poetry Festival.It mentions the name of Sonnet Mondal as an International Poet.This article should remain. — 59.93.205.9 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * CommentThis one is from Calcutta too. Our bard tries too hard (:-) Hey I can write a bit of poetry too!!) I did a search for all the names mentioned in the article and guess what none of them, apart from our Shakspeare has a wikipedia article. That settles how important this Poetry festival is to the International Poet community. --Deepak D'Souza 18:10, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Poet of the Day? Lol...... whatever. Niteshift36 (talk) 05:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete--I do not buy the notability of this person at all. Vanity, nothing more. Wikipedia is not here to promote poets. Drmies (talk) 05:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing but dubious claims. Hekerui (talk) 08:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete until he becomes notable according to multiple reliable third-party published sources. Priyanath talk 04:54, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
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