Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sophia High School


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The result was no consensus.  JGHowes   talk  01:41, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Sophia High School

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School does not seem notable. No reliable sources currently in the article, a search of the school only turns up Facebook pages and such. EpicPupper 18:07, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Maybe regular Google searches are a bad place to find sources on an Indian topic, given that most of the results will be of Western sources especially in GNews cites, but this looks just a school like any other average school. No coverage I found. Maybe you'll find coverage if you're in India? 👨x🐱 (talk) 18:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. I have added some sources. The school has a number of notable alumni and the special education unit in particular has received attention in reliable sources. The school was called Convent of the Sacred Heart for its first nine years, according to the article, and this common name may be hindering finding sources for the early years. Given its history and number of notable alumni, and the fact that some sources may not be in English or online, I think it is likely that other sources exist. The article does need some pruning of unsourced and non-notable information, and the structure is a bit muddled, but those are not reasons for deletion. Tacyarg (talk) 21:12, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete If you get rid of all the un-referenced material the only thing that is left is the Notable alumni section. Which isn't enough to base an article on, let alone for it to pass the standards of the notability guidelines. Notability isn't inherited either. So, I don't think keeping it just because of the notable alumni alone is a valid argument. Otherwise, every random restaurant out there that a celebrity eats at would have an article. The standard should be even higher with high schools IMO though because 99% of the time the notable people went to the high school before they were notable and there's zero evidence the high schools they attended have anything to do with their notability. Hardly ever (if at all), except in rare cases, are such things ever mentioned in the persons article. Nor does the school itself usually acknowledge anywhere that the person even went there. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:13, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'd say the section about the special education unit is well-sourced from a range of reliable sources. (I added them so obviously am biassed.) I have also now found several Times of India references that I hadn't previously put in as the ToI is described at WP:RSP as "a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable". I saw today it being described as an RS at Articles for deletion/Leher App, and on looking at the RfC on this at Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 287 there are people saying it is reliable, so have added those in. I've only used articles with bylines, as I know this is an indicator of reliability. With the 6 citations I have just added, the article now has 10 reliable references excluding the 6 which establish the attendance of former students. This passes WP:GNG. I think the two descriptions of the status of the school by the ToI are particularly striking: "one of Bangalore's "legendary" schools with "a historic past", and one of the city's "top schools" which, before the 1990s, "had identities that went beyond their names"" (linked to two different articles by different writers). Tacyarg (talk) 21:25, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the references. That aside though, your quotes of the school being "legendary", having "a historic past", and so on sounds more like hyperbolic advertising then anything else. --Adamant1 (talk) 21:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per Tacyarg's sourcefinding. Vaticidalprophet 16:12, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Article is well written and passes WP:GNG Applus2021 (talk) 02:16, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kichu🐘 Need any help? 15:21, 28 April 2021 (UTC)


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