Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soprano family


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of The Sopranos characters. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Soprano family

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Does not meet GNG or any other notability standard (insufficient coverage in reliable sources) and is not necessary as a split from List of Sopranos characters either. Severe over-detail and MOS:INUNIVERSE problems requiring WP:TNT. Should be redirected or deleted. Search results on Google Scholar turn up numerous hits, but they are either passing references, or focused on The Sopranos as a TV show, not the fictional crime family. —Ganesha811 (talk) 15:55, 24 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:11, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Television. —Ganesha811 (talk) 15:55, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Just a note that this page was not a recent split. The split happened in April of 2006. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:01, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Keep. Page was heavily edited a few years ago to remove sub paragraphs for every character. The page does have a citation problem, but how does one make citations for scenes and dialogue from a TV series? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edimeo25 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * One can make citations e.g. by writing, but more importantly, articles are not supposed to be based entirely or largely on WP:PRIMARY sources. TompaDompa (talk) 17:14, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. Edimeo25 (talk) 16:45, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of The Sopranos characters. IF the topic is notable, this should be shown with sources in the text, no such sources are presented there (or here, so far). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:28, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment:For what it's worth, there is another page user Ganesha811 listed for deletion last week which is similar to this page, The Corleone Family. Same format and style inspired by the wikipedia pages for real life mafia crime families, such as The Geneovese Crime Family, or the DeCavalcante Crime Family (real life New Jersey mafia family). Consensus was to Keep. Edimeo25 (talk) 18:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect Most of this is WP:OR and unsourced. It also doesn't pass WP:LISTN as separately notable from the main character list. It doesn't make sense to split this out as its own article, as the show is literally called The Sopranos and is about the family. It would be like having a "list of Marvel superheroes" in addition to a "list of Marvel characters" -- they are the same thing. The familial connections between the characters can be described in the notable articles about the show, the individual notable characters, and the main character list. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:39, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep There is a book titled "The Sopranos: A Family History" authored by Allen Rucker and David Chase written in an "in-universe" style. This could be used as a source for citations. Article could use editing, not deleting. Clancybrothersbook (talk) 20:03, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of The Sopranos characters. This in-universe-style of writing is completely inappropriate for Wikipedia, not to mention that it's largely unsourced with some original research thrown in. Joyous! | Talk 03:49, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.