Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sorbyshire


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. No prejudice against creation of a redirect if anyone thinks that would be useful. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 04:59, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorbyshire

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WP:DEL7. Unable to find any sources to support content of page. "Sorby" and "shire" are mentioned together here: ; however, the S. indicates the location is in Scotland (as do other towns mentioned as being within this area). I was unable to find anything to support Sorbyshire being a former Shire in what is now Yorkshire (England). A natural history society in Yorkshire uses the name "Sorbyshire", but take their name from Henry Clifton Sorby. DferDaisy (talk) 00:44, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete possibly made up. I could find no use of the word "Sorbyshire" in this context - everything I found was either a Wikipedia mirror (or blatant copying from Wikipedia), an OCR error, or the alternate meaning of "Sorbyshire" used by the natural history society in Yorkshire. CJK09 (talk) 01:56, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  06:50, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete this is a copy of Sowerbyshire but this spelling is not a useful redirect.--Pontificalibus (talk) 07:03, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Sowerby, West Yorkshire. Confusion is clarified by The Northern Danelaw: Its Social Structure, c.800-1100, D.M. Hadley, Bloomsbury, 2001.  Sowerby was not a shire; it was a scir, understood as a poorly understood unit of territorial organization under the northern Danelaw that had ceased to have any formal administrative meaning by the time of the Domesday Book but that was still in limited use in the early medieval period as a term describing an estate.  When Sowerbyshire, an estate, appears in history it is as part of the manor of Wakefield..  This article was probably honestly created, but I think it is more efficiently redirected and merged to Sowerby.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:00, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Better to redirect term than delete since "Sorbyshire" is sometimes used.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:14, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Suggest that Sowerbyshire be similarly redirected to Sowerby, West Yorkshire because there is no indication that it was ever "a small shire" in the sense of shire as a political unit, but, rather, was some sort of populated place, estate, or strategic location and valuable estate at the time of the Norman Conquest but with so little historical documentation in the pre-Norman period as to make a separate article making the sort of claims this article does misleading.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:11, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


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