Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sorensens, California


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Sorensen's Resort. Barkeep49 (talk) 03:01, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorensens, California

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Actually Sorensen's Resort. I have found a couple of news stories about it (e.g. ) but I would characterize them as travel writing; while well-known in the area, it has nowhere near the notability of a place like the Izaak Walton Inn. In any case a new article would have to be written under the correct title; the only accurate thing in this one is the coordinates. Mangoe (talk) 03:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. North America1000 03:25, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. North America1000 03:25, 10 May 2020 (UTC)


 * While I think travel writing could lend itself to notability if viewed contextually - for instance, Sorenson's Resort got a full page in the LA Times travel section in 2003, and if there are several of those types of articles in major newspapers around the country, combined with local news of the resort's comings and goings that wasn't written promotionally I'd probably support a keep - it's clear this is not an unincorporated community. I'm fine with a delete without prejudice for this particular article against anyone who wants to write a neutral article on the resort, without taking any stance on the resort's notability. SportingFlyer  T · C  04:08, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Clearly a resort (really just a set of cabins), not a community. Could possibly squeak past GNG but I agree that it's best to delete with no prejudice against rewriting. –dlthewave ☎ 04:20, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the new Sorensen's Resort article. –dlthewave ☎ 01:54, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Soft delete or redirect to Hope Valley (California), without prejudice against recreation. CJK09 (talk) 16:52, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm going to see if I can rescue this. I've been working on the related Hope Valley article and dredged up a lot of stuff about Sorensens in the process. I should be able to get to it in the next 2 or 3 days. If kept, it should be moved to Sorensen's Resort. CJK09 (talk) 01:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * As a recommendation, you may want to start the article at Draft:Sorensen's Resort instead of using this flawed article as a baseline, as it may be notable for being a resort, but it's not in any shape or form a community. It'd be great if you would work on it, but that would save the problem of needing to vote delete on an article that needs to be deleted (for being wrongly identified as a community) as an article that should be kept (for being a notable resort) is developed in the same space. This can always be closed as a delete, no prejudice against redirect to the new article. SportingFlyer  T · C  02:08, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Rescued article draft should be ready this evening. CJK09 (talk) 17:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've written a much improved article - see Draft:Sorensen's Resort. I have struck out my earlier vote. I now vote to Keep, by moving the draft into mainspace at Sorensen's Resort, and redirecting Sorensens, California to that page. The resort has received plenty of significant coverage, including from publications as far away as Los Angeles as well as a number of other non-local publishers. Furthermore, as indicated in the Placerville Mountain Democrat article cited in my draft, the couple who owned the resort for almost four decades until retiring last year were instrumental in conserving the Hope Valley area and protecting it from attempts at development. I haven't added that to the article yet, but that's another source of notability in addition to the travel coverage, and I will be adding it soon. CJK09 (talk) 00:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: I moved the article into mainspace at Sorensen's Resort. CJK09 (talk) 00:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Perfect. Thanks for writing the article! SportingFlyer  T · C  00:44, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice work! I'll change my !vote. –dlthewave ☎ 01:53, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


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