Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soul Edge (weapon) (2nd Nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 00:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Soul Edge (weapon)
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Second nomination for the subject. Since the last AfD no sources for notability have turned up, and no active effort to improve the article has been made. Article is still primarily WP:PLOT for the Soul series of video games. Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:17, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. All this really is an in-universe summary of the series' plot with info on Soul Edge's abilites (which, very briefly, are: to shapeshift, corrupt minds and reform itself). The weapon itself isn't notable, and any information excluding its abilities is already covered, so no need for this article. L337 kybldmstr (talk) 05:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. The keeps from the previous AfD (closed as no consensus) all claimed the article will be merged. That didn't happen, so it's time to delete this article that provides no third party sources to assert notability for an item mentioned only in its fictional universe. VG &#x260E; 08:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. No comprehensive coverage from reliable sources on this weapon (i.e. no substantial information on the conception, design, and reception of this fictional weapon itself): subject is not notable per WP:GNG. Jappalang (talk) 09:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete restatement of plot that can easily be talked about in the game articles themselves. JuJube (talk) 11:33, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge. The information regarding reception is extremely relevant and unique amongst the thousands of other fictional such ideas.  To say the weapon itself has significant relevance to the series would be a dry understatement.  The information contained here should be largely relocated to the Soul (series) article and all links redirected there.--199.79.10.117 (talk) 15:19, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:SOFIXIT and execute the merge. It's had plenty of time to do so, already. MuZemike  ( talk ) 15:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to but I didn't even know this article existed until just a few days ago (and the second time I visited it, it was nominated for deletion. Perhaps the reason this page has seen so little attention is there are no links to it (at least no apparent ones) in any of the other Soul series material.--199.79.10.117 (talk) 12:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I was hastily judging based on the context of the previous AfD. MuZemike  ( talk ) 15:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete for not meeting Five Pillars. — despite !voting keep last time, this has had plenty of time for users involved in the article to show proof of significant coverage of the weapon via secondary sources or to merge the article in light of a no consensus conclusion of the previous AfD. Neither has been done. Article still consists of plot summary rehashing, and indiscriminate information. MuZemike  ( talk ) 15:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete: the prior keep !votes had questionable merit the last time, based on alleging that reliable third-party sources exist. They don't. Time to delete. Randomran (talk) 18:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep or redirect to external link The information about a villain can only be obtained from the media that originate it. Because of this, it's rather difficult (for not say impossible) to obtain reliable third-party sources. At last, the article should be reduced, and contains a link to a specialized wiki (like the specific Soul Calibur Wiki ). —Preceding unsigned comment added by MRFraga (talk • contribs) 19:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not entirely true. The information about a villain can only be obtained from the media that originate it, if no reliable third-party sources also have said information. That hasn't happened with this article, which instead rehashes the series' plot. Soul Edge isn't a character either, so there's no justification for having it in an article on Soul series characters. And I would be careful about using another wiki as a source; it may not have as high standards as Wikipedia in terms of sourcing, verification and attribution. L337 kybldmstr (talk) 05:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - not written with WP:WAF guidelines, not attributable to a reliable, independent sources (WP:V), no assertion of notability (WP:N), excessive in-game detail for this general encyclopedia (WP:GAMECRUFT) - basically, this entity can be summarized in a single paragraph within the video game's article. Marasmusine (talk) 10:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


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