Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Souleye (hip hop artist)


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The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 07:26, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Souleye (hip hop artist)

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A lot of coverage exists which has this man's name in it, but it appears to me that 99% of it is actually just about Alanis Morissette, his wife, and is either report on their 2010 marriage or is some other tabloid nonsense following her daily life which he happens to be a part of. I found no significant coverage discussing his music. He has an AllMusic page, but it only has five of his albums, no ratings from users let alone critics, and no bio. He doesn't even have an Album of the Year listing. If his sole notability is as another person's husband, I think his name should redirect to her page instead. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 00:18, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 00:18, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems ok, usual mix of celebrity stuff, US magazine is ok. This is directly about him. Oaktree b (talk) 00:29, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This in Kotaku is a sort-of review of his music in a video game, discussing a few tracks Oaktree b (talk) 00:33, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That Kotaku piece is about a different musician with the same name. Notice that article mentions that the composer's real name is Magnus Pålsson, while this guy's name is Mario John Treadway. The Source article, however, is the right guy. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 01:38, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:58, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:21, 6 October 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:33, 13 October 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Final relist. We really need a few more editors to participate here and review the available sources. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:51, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @QuietHere I have added in some additional sources to substantiate Souleye's career outside of his marriage to Alanis Morissette. Souleye was recently profiled by one of the leading hip-hop magazines, The Source, about his lengthy musical career as an independent hip-hop artist. The magazine called him "one of the most inventive hip-hop artists of his generation." https://thesource.com/2023/03/18/with-latest-album-disguised-as-tomorrow-genre-bending-rapper-souleye-cements-legacy-as-one-of-most-inventive-hip-hop-artists-of-his-generation/
 * I also added in another feature profile on him by men's magazine Swagger, which focuses on his career and partnership with visual artist Rob Prior, which is here: https://www.swaggermagazine.com/entertainment/when-visual-art-and-music-collide-an-interview-with-genre-bending-hip-hop-artist-souleye-and-acclaimed-visual-artist-rob-prior/ Stevenlevine1 (talk) 20:22, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
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Delete Bizarre. I was under the impression that The Source was a generally reliable publication and one of the leading hip-hop magazines as stated by QuietHere, but the profile of Souleye almost makes me inclined to believe this was some kind of sponsored piece. If not, it is abysmally poor journalism.
 * "Souleye is one of the most prolific, impactful and creative hip-hop artists of his generation with a staggering 12 studio albums and dozens of singles and EPs throughout his two-decade-long career." Yet I am struggling to find any critical reception? No awards, no other profiles other than this one, no tributes and shoutouts from other artists?
 * "His acclaimed new album, Disguised as Tomorrow, released just last month, features meditative and spiritual elements that “reflect a relaxed, introspective, reflective period after the globally traumatic experiences of the pandemic." Souleye says." An acclaimed new album with no reviews? With songs averaging a few hundred views on Youtube?

Souleye is not notable as a musician. He cannot inherit his wife's notability. What little coverage exists seems to be sponsored content/churnalism. Mooonswimmer 13:38, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Alanis Morissette or delete. notability is not inherited, and all of the coverage here is targeted at Morissette. There's only trivial and routine coverage on this individual, certainly nothing that is going to pass WP:NMUSICBIO. Jacona (talk) 17:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @MooonswimmerI have identified a corpus of additional press placements pertaining to Souleye predating his marriage to Alanis Morissette, as well as some following it, such as Naluda Magazine. Several of these articles date back to the year 2003, 7 years before his relationship. Will the incorporation of these sources serve to substantiate the subject under discussion?
 * https://www.steamboatpilot.com/explore-steamboat/mc-souleye-pens-lyrics/
 * https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/mi-blvds-lead-vocalist-souleye-at-red-lightning-beats/2101964/
 * https://jambands.com/news/2010/03/26/souleye-leaves-blvd/
 * https://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/hip-hop-homecoming/
 * https://bandblurb.com/souleye-hip-hop-medicine/
 * https://www.sacramentopress.com/2009/07/23/blvd-bring-dance-party-to-beatnik/
 * https://music.newcity.com/2008/07/10/preview-tipper-blvd-mc-souleye-anasia-mo2/
 * https://www.naludamagazine.com/interview-with-sf-based-hip-hop-artist-souleye/
 * https://www.sandiegoreader.com/events/2008/sep/20/blvd-and-souleye/
 * https://www.thereporter.com/2010/01/28/music-review-blvd-breaks-boundaries-by-blending-musical-beats/amp/
 * https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2008/sep/28/live-music-shack-opens-its-heart-heartles-20080928/
 * https://www.rapreviews.com/2008/11/blvd-music-for-people/ Stevenlevine1 (talk) 18:13, 24 October 2023 (UTC)


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