Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Carolina–Texas A&M football rivalry


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 20:42, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

South Carolina–Texas A&M football rivalry

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No evidence of a rivalry. Just two teams that have played one another. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Carolina-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America1000 15:36, 20 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep including re the 4 existing 7 WP:RS direct citations with quotations, tied to the Bonham Trophy and/or Battle for the Bonham Trophy which is "exchanged between the states' governors." This travelling trophy (which itself easily passes GNG) is a hallmark of a college football rivalries and supports the rivalry claim. To the extent there is disagreement(?), this article would simply by retitled as "Bonham Trophy" and moved to Category:College football rivalry trophies in the United States, where there are more than 100 similar existing articles and redirects. UW Dawgs (talk) 15:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment re prior 2019 article move (retitling) and the cause/history of this AfD listing.
 * This article was originally Bonham Trophy for which there are now 7 direct, RS citations and quotations included in the article.(see here) In Nov 2018, the article's "rivalry or trophy" title was discussed at Talk:Bonham Trophy#rivalry or trophy. Without discussion, the article was moved to the current "rivalry" location in Jan 2019. The moving editor was then pinged on Talk, nothing occured, and the article has retained its current "rivalry" title. Probably a mistake in hindsight.
 * Yesterday, the same editor who retitled this as a "rivalry" article made a non-sequitur comment about this article on an unrelated AfD (where they had created that article) without referencing prior their movement/retitling of this article. And 11 hours later, another editor created this AfD listing, without apparent awareness or reference to prior undiscussed retitling/movement or Talk discussion of this article.
 * So again, we might not be discussing the same topics. The trophy (and this article's intended topic at creation) clearly and easily pass GNG policy with multitple RS citations and direct quotations on point. That said, the outcome should be Keep or Revert to original title plus additional categorization with 100+ other sibling CFB trophy articles in Category:College football rivalry trophies in the United States. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:11, 20 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. A grand total of six games played . . . all since 2014 . . . and South Carolina has not yet won even a single game . . . this is supposed to be a notable rivalry? A very, very strong case can be made that this is way, way too soon.  Yes, the athletic department administrators got together and created some sort of trophy in an effort to stir up a "rivalry", but two of the sources cited (here and here)  are about how the supposed "rivalry" is viewed as a joke with neither the coaches nor the fan bases even realizing there was a trophy. Try again in a decade, if this really turns into a rivalry (and after the Gamecocks have won a few games). Cbl62 (talk) 16:48, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * A bit more: Other than the creation of the trophy nobody knows about, this series fails every criteria for traditional rivalries: (i) lack of history (dates to 2014), (ii) lack of frequency (6 total games); (iii); lack of competitiveness (0-6); (iv) lack of geographic proximity (1,100 miles); (v) lack of marquee matchups with both teams ranked (zero); and (vi) lack of fan base frenzy factor. Cbl62 (talk) 16:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per Cbl also another example of SEC fans' liberal use of the word rivalry.–UCO2009bluejay (talk) 17:12, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cbl. Jweiss11 (talk) 20:37, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cbl. WP:TOOSOON. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 01:01, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cbl: There is bare mention of "rivalry" and unlike the Kentucky–Vanderbilt football rivalry, that has several mentions of such a rivalry, this is not yet established. --  Otr500 (talk) 04:48, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cbl62. Fails WP:GNG and definitely is WP:TOOSOON. Both of these teams have real rivalries elsewhere, and this ain't it. Ejgreen77 (talk) 04:36, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per Cbl. Good grief; we might as well have 'rivalry' articles for every combination of every team in every event... Non-notable and way too soon. --Jack Frost (talk) 10:17, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


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