Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Florida Fair


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Withdrawn by nominator, in light of community consensus, the addition of reliable sources, as well as a removal of spam-like text –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  15:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

South Florida Fair

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Written like an advertisement, and doesn't indicate notability or significance. There are Google News hits, but the article is a borderline G11 in its current state. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  14:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I know it's written like an Advertisement but there is some good about, well why not look at the things I said on the Talk Page. --12george1 (talk) 15:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand your argument for keeping the article. The article does not cite reliable sources. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  16:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - The fair is an annual operating fair since 1912 that has received coverage sustained over a long period of time. The Sun-Sentinel has coverage here for the 2009 event and the Evening Independent has coverage here from 1917. -- Whpq (talk) 17:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - WHpq's sources establish notability beyond any reasonable objection. Wily D 18:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I noted that the subject is sufficiently notable; the reason I'm nominating this for deletion is because of the spam-like tone of the article, which in my opinion might qualify for CSD G11. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  18:35, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You're nomination specifically states "doesn't indicate notability or significance" so you did not note that it was sufficiently notable. Per WP:AFD, if you thought this article was notable but had issues with it reading like an advert, you could have cleaned it up oyurself, or identified for other editors to review with tage like advert.  And  I would disagree that this article's tone is so advertising like that it qualifies for a speedy deletion.  As you agree it is notable, I suggest that you withdraw the nomination.  Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 18:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Being notable and indicating notability in the article itself are two entirely different things. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  18:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * We don't delete articles on notable subjects, we improve them through editting. If all that was missing was an assertion of notability, you could have added it yourself. -- Whpq (talk) 18:50, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not all that's missing. The article is, by and large, written like an advertisement. We have a CSD for that, so I don't feel that my objection to the article is unreasonable. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  18:55, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The rewrite required isn't "fundamental" but "cosmetic". One might reasonably cut down as an editorial (not AFD) action. Wily D  18:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * "From historic Yesteryear Village to the more than eighty cutting-edge rides of the midway and the huge kiddie midway, the South Florida Fair offers something exciting for all ages. Visit the Expo Center for the Americraft and other displays." That, at least in my eyes, requires a complete rewrite, as does much of the rest of the text. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone
 * A good chunk. But deletion is only a remedy where removing all the spammy bits would result in the page no longer having any content, which's not the case here.  Essentially, if removing the spammy bits would make it a valid A1, then it's a valid G11. Wily D  18:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Even so, it seems to me that without the advertisement-like stuff, the article would be a few words long, a sentence at most. –Juliancolton Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:00, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That makes it a stub which can be expanded. - Whpq (talk) 19:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this discussion over? --12george1 (talk) 19:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No. An AFD normally runs for 5 days. -- Whpq (talk) 19:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The South Florida Fair is a notable event. Why delete this while keeping more trivial information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeteU (talk • contribs) 15:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.