Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Kensington crash


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete; speedied after article creator requested speedy deletion. bd2412 T 19:24, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

South Kensington crash

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Car crashes are common all over the world, fails WP:N as WP:ROUTINE coverage. Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:19, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete (or Merge) It's rare and neat to see so many injuries described as not life-changing, but that exceptionality works against its notability, not for it. No blood, no tears, no article. Fear itself doesn't cut the mustard, especially when it's brief. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:38, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to Exhibition Road as suggested on the article's talk page. KGirl  (Wanna chat?) 21:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is a good idea per Graceful's comment below. Were there any other major accidents on this road before? How does it impact the history of the area? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:59, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Perhaps if we waited for the news to clarify the story instead of rushing to create "articles" (secondhand news reports) we wouldn't even need to be here. Wikipedia is not a newspaper.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:51, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete becase we don't cover routine news. But what I really came to say is don't merge to Exhibition Road because that would create lack of balance. Thincat (talk) 21:56, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * There'd be one event in it from the distant past and one from the relative present. That seems balanced to me. If we can find a 1934 event, we'd have a beginning, middle and end. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:02, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If they are both tied to the road as the cause then I would say okay but you need to find a connection if not. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:04, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I found the Refrigeration Exhibition of 1934. It's something like that first thing, but nothing like this last thing. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:07, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your looking, I feel the biggest issue here would be "Is the road dangerous"? This is why we have to be careful about making a section about car crashes. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:11, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair point. But given the lack of death or serious injury in this crash, I don't think readers would get a danger vibe from its inclusion. I also don't think readers miss anything by never learning it happened. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:19, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nom. Routine news coverage of something that is not otherwise notable had it not initially been misinterpreted as something bigger. As GracefulSlick said, had we waited for the first police press briefing (as I think we always should before creating such articles), we wouldn't be here. I'm ambivalent about merging to the Exhibition Rd article. As traffic accident, definitely not notable as event to add. As a kind of reflection about media and police overreaction, it may just be of interest. But in a different context, probably failing WP:10YT. I'm just thinking back to London in the 80s and 90s. If we'd include every suspect IRA "package" that causes a scare with similar police cordons that in the end turns out to be nothing, we'd need hundreds such entries. The difference to the 90s, if you'd miss the 20 second clip in the local news that evening, you wouldn't even know it happened. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 06:44, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:31, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:31, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:31, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete – No fatalities, no terrorism, just a road accident. But possibly worth a mention in the Exhibition Road article. Wjfox2005 (talk) 06:43, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Please put it on Wikinews, this sisterproject is especially for news. There is a need for new contributors there. --Livenws (talk) 12:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - per WP:NOTNEWS. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 13:27, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Absolutely unbelievable that this non-event has an article. What next? A page about that woman who tried to climb over the gates of Buckingham Palace?. This is Paul (talk) 14:31, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Not only tried to climb, but appeared to shout. Relatively complex operation. Though no, not next. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:41, 9 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - WP:NOTNEWS -- Longhair\talk 14:32, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:NOTNEWS -- (Emigdioofmiami (talk) 14:59, 8 October 2017 (UTC))
 * Delete - can always be recreated if the article has lasting significant coverage over time, but given that this appears to be a simple car accident, that seems unlikely. Nwlaw63 (talk) 16:46, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete A cautionary tale on creating articles based on tweets from Nigel Farage. AusLondonder (talk) 21:53, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * ...and Katie Hopkins.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:54, 10 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Per WP:10YT. There's been a brief flurry of attention paid to those who jumped to the wrong conclusion, but this doesn't justify an article.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:54, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Another classic and prime example of news coverage and recentism, rearing its ugly head. Wikipedia is not a news outlet and these article must be stamped on. I just wish a boat load of other articles would go exactly the same way. This is the worst example of initial news coverage leading to branding of terrorism, this should serve as a catalyst to put the brakes on other crap spewed from the same orifice having an article created and then defended to the hilt by news-mongers. Sport and politics (talk) 14:28, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete and speedy close (article creator): Seemed worth creating when the headline was all over BBC and other media outlets, but this non-event does not need a WP article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:48, 11 October 2017 (UTC)


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