Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Scope


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. No prejudice against renomination as little discussion took place — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:59, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

South Scope

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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  Cliff  Smith 17:52, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  Cliff  Smith 17:52, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

The only things well known about this one are that they give out the South scope awards. The awards may be notable, but the magazine doesn't appear to be so. Secret of success (talk) 15:26, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The magazine is popular, I live in san francisco bay area and this magazine is available even here, though it is from as far as south India. Please click here~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.36.196.6 (talk) 20:31, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: South India... an area with a population of hundreds of millions. I'd be quite surprised if this magazine covering the Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam and Kannada film industries was not determinable as notable. Time for input from Wikipedians better able to find the non-English sourcing.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If, at all, it exists. Secret of success (talk) 15:30, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep I looked. It exists and is sourcable. It was apparently launched in late 2009. From Cinejosh, December 8, 2009: "With his recently launched magazine South Scope Allu Sirish is busy all these days." From Indiaglitz, January 12, 2010: "Sirish is currently managing a stylish film magazine named South Scope." from BehindWoods, March 4, 2010: "Southscope is India’s first English magazine on South Indian cinema. While it covers all the four southern industries extensively, considerable space is also given to Hindi films, Hollywood & World cinema." From IndiaCompanyNews, April 17, 2011: "Allu Sirish, at 23 years, is the founder and CEO of Southscope film magazine and a young film producer..." So.. we have resuts from late 2009 through at least 2011, where other media speak toward the existing magazine Sirish founded. Being in Southern California, I will likely never hold a hardcopy in my hands... but I do not doubt it exists.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 07:07, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * None of the sources you mentioned are reliable enough to act as sole indicators of the notability of a subject. Secret of success (talk) 14:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * They were the results of only a very few minutes of my actually looking rather than conjecturing, and more may exist... but they do provide verifiability to your earlier answer "If, at all, it exists," don't they? Far harder to question the existance of something when existance is really no longer in doubt.  A Wikipedia level of notability may yet be ascertained by others better able to provide offline sources.  At the very minimum, the proven availability of even a few sources for South Scope would make a merge and redirection a reasonable consideration... and per WP:Deletion policy a merge is a topic for the talk pages of South Scope and its possible target.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 17:33, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, they provide verifiability, but not under the category of sources under WP:RS. As you have said, a merge or a redirect would definitely be appropriate and if offline sources are found, the article can always be recreated. Thanks. Secret of success (talk) 15:01, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * When someone implies that something might not exist, it is pertinent to show that it in fact does exist, so thank you for acknowledging its existance. And we do have enough reliable sources speaking about this magazine and its film awards so that enough notabiity is demonstrated.  I do not think a newer magazine from India, purported to be the first to extensively cover the South Indian film industry, MUST somehow have the same long-term notability as might its older breathren or be deleted.  I have no idea just how many non-English sources may be available, but there is no need to delete and then recreate an article that would benefit from simple cleanup and regular editing.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 22:47, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 23:15, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


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