Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southeast Manor, Indiana


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 12:40, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Southeast Manor, Indiana

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Coordinates point to a random rural road. No substantive sources establishing notability or existence as a community other than listing of place name in database or atlas. Reywas92Talk 17:47, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:52, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:13, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per WP:GEOLAND. Listed in the Board of Geographic Names' National Gazetteer which is the minimal threshold required per community consensus. Chetsford (talk) 07:23, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you please point to that consensus? That is merely a listing that it is a name that has appeared on a map, with no context. This is a random road, not a town or village. Reywas92Talk 20:46, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * "Can you please point to that consensus?" No, I'm not going to do that because GEOLAND is a notability guideline. I have no burden of proof to demonstrate the route by which it became a guideline. "That is merely a listing that it is a name that has appeared on a map, with no context." Per GEOLAND, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable. A legally constituted body of a sovereign state (the U.S. Board of Geographic Names) has recognized (a distinct threshold from "approved" or "sanctioned") the existence of Southeast Manor, Indiana by the simple act of publication of its name in an official volume (context or description is not a requirement). Therefore, it meets the minimum threshold of being "legally recognized". It does not have to pass the GNG. Chetsford (talk) 21:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:NGEO states that geographical features, which includes communities, must meet Wikipedia's General notability guideline (WP:GNG) to be presumed notable - even meeting the GNG does not guarantee notability, but this place does not meet GNG, so it is a clear delete - the WP:GEOLAND guideline says nothing about a minimal threshold - if there is such a consensus among the community, then the guideline needs to be updated to reflect the new standard, but as it stands, we must follow the guideline and delete Southeast Manor, Indiana, as non-notable - Epinoia (talk) 21:39, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:GEOLAND says no such thing. In fact, it clearly says these things are notable. This is disruptive behavior and certain editors need to stop it now. Smartyllama (talk) 17:39, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:20, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Southeast Manor is one of several settlements in Indian nominated for deletion by the same editor (see Articles for deletion/Hildebrand Village, Indiana, which closed as "keep"). Southeast Manor is a "populated, legally recognized place", per WP:GEOLAND:
 * The US Department of the Interior identifies Southeast Manor as a populated place.
 * The State of Indiana identifies Southeast Manor on a list of municipalities.
 * Several maps at Template:GeoTemplate list Southeast Manor. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:10, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Satisfies WP:GEOFEAT, WP:NGEO, etc.(Buildings, including private residences and commercial developments)-- PA TH  SL OP U  13:42, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.