Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southern Baptist-related Schools, Colleges, and Universities


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, default to keep. Dreadstar †  17:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Southern Baptist-related Schools, Colleges, and Universities

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I'm not entirely sure what to make of this page. It just seems straight up unencyclopedic. SmashvilleBONK! 01:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Although I resisted my initial urge to nominate it for deletion, I agree that it seems unencyclopedic. It's not even a list, which would make sense to me, but rather a bad, uninformative version of . There may even be a list of these schools that I haven't yet discovered. Furthermore, it doesn't seem to meet standard naming conventions, as schools, colleges, and universities should not be capitalised. --Aepoutre (talk) 01:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Like International Association of Methodist-related Schools, Colleges, and Universities and the Association of Presbyterian Colleges and Universities. I can see what this person was trying to replicate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.33.85.92 (talk) 02:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think it is trying to follow in the footsteps of other churches higher education organizational pages.
 * The ones you refer to are actual organizations. This one is not. --SmashvilleBONK! 03:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Smashville is right. You don't seem to understand the difference here. --Aepoutre (talk) 19:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Association of Southern Baptist Colleges and Schools —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.27.40.115 (talk) 06:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As the last commentor doesn't seem to understand, this isn't an association... --Aepoutre (talk) 19:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Heading of a very large template, inherent notability, also, no actual reason to delete is is listed in the nom. If its unencylopedic, fix it. MrPrada (talk) 06:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not the heading of a template. The template exists on another page here: Template:Southern Baptist Colleges --SmashvilleBONK! 13:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Smashville is right again. It includes the template but is not a template. Check your facts, guys. --Aepoutre (talk) 19:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * However, the template heading itself links to the article (hence, heading of a template), semantics. The arguments for notability remain. MrPrada (talk) 21:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That's because the article and the template were created by the same person. Look at the template, then look at the template in the article...note that they are not the same. I removed Belmont from the template, but it didn't disappear from the article. Wikilinked to the template heading or not, it is still and article and it is still unencyclopedic. --SmashvilleBONK! 21:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of university deletions. &mdash; Noetic  Sage  19:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Adds nothing of substance to the template. ObiterDicta ( pleadings • errata • appeals ) 21:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

There were two prep-schools on the list, Fork Union Academy and San Marcos Academy, which I've taken off. The redlink for Yellowstone Baptist might become an article, although I have second thoughts about whether it would survive the deletion process. Mandsford (talk) 17:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Users who wish to vote on this AfD really should not be an anonymous IP account.  - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  02:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep As with List of airports in the Caribbean, the failure of this article is in the template presentation. I've gone ahead with a be bold that can be undone by anyone who prefers the template form, but if you're going to make a list, the small-print, stream of information, template form is unreadable in the extreme.  Mandsford (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Addendum I've tried to add more information to make this more than the (IMO, useless) template. There's room for a lot more improvement, since Wake Forest University is not in the same category as Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary.
 * Comment. I've removed Belmont, as well, since Belmont is not a Baptist school. This article is essentially a compilation of information gained from unreliable sources. --SmashvilleBONK! 16:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Not sure what your reasoning is on Belmont, since other sources confirm that it's described as a member of IABCU on the website and on other | SBC sources. Where's your source concerning Belmont? Mandsford (talk) 00:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * --SmashvilleBONK! 07:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Now that it has text, it looks okay as a navigational/organizational list per WP:LIST and WP:SAL. It still needs cleanup including a proper reference section. Earthdirt (talk) 03:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment, couldn't this be just a category? AnteaterZot (talk) 05:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete or Rename to comply with naming conventions per Aepoutre. I suggest making it a list, since that's what it is.— Noetic  Sage  13:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.