Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southern Festival of Speed


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.  MBisanz  talk 00:52, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Southern Festival of Speed

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No substantial coverage in the media. A previous event which has barely been covered in the past. Not an encyclopedic topic. Poppy Higgins (talk) 18:39, 20 July 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Delete. Not a notable festival in terms of sufficient independent sources. Ajf773 (talk) 09:16, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:55, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. As per nom, clearly fails SIGCOV. DerbyCountyinNZ  (Talk Contribs) 11:13, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as a significant event on the NZ classic car racing calender and includes international drivers. The article is very poor and needs significant rewriting. There is enough information, even in a Google search, to meet SIGCOV. The interest group is fairly specialised to a particular form of motor racing. There is also a merge request with Dunedin Street Circuit that has not been addressed. Also with a bit of work WP:GNG should be quite easy to reach. The event also covers a significant period of NZ motor racing history from the 1950's to date NealeFamily (talk) 23:59, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment. I did a quick search before commenting my opinion and found nothing of any significant non-local coverage. Could you demonstrate that sources exist which are significant enough for this article to pass notability? Ajf773 (talk) 11:53, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment. I also did a search on Startpage looking for non-local, significant coverage. I only found six paragraphs in the Ontago Daily Times and one sentence in the NZ Herald hence my request for the article's deletion. If it could be merged to a larger article on NZ car racing then all well and good, but sitting by itself it doesn't seem to me to be an encyclopedic topic. Poppy Higgins (talk) 20:47, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Reply Thank you both for your comments. Much of the content for this article will need to be retrieved from magazine articles that are archieved as they stretch back to the 1950's. I will also need to head for our library sources as the races are covered in a number of publications. Until I do so I can't address Ajf773's valid concern. From past editing, there seems to be very few if any NZ motor sport editors in Wiki and I will need time to address the articles short comings. Can I plead for clemency to give me time to sort it out, with a review in say, a couple of months? I am happy to submit it to you both for review once I have done so.


 * As to the online content - this gives some background on the event, its place in the current events, and this UK published article, although it appears to be a promo article and therefore not up to WP:RS NealeFamily (talk) 10:25, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 13:38, 4 August 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep at its peak, this event attracted teams from many countries. I added content from a 2002 magazine article describing 20 teams from outside the country to participate in the event. It has multiple independent reliable sources so meets WP:GNG.  Royal broil  03:37, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 10:59, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as reliable sources references have been added to the article so that this pre-internet subject passes WP:GNG


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.