Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Space Rings (disambiguation)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was moot, creator blanked and it was G7ed. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:13, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Space Rings (disambiguation)

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None of these things are called "space rings" in reliable sources at any significant rate. Most of these things are not even ring shaped, many being disks instead. Crossroads -talk- 02:25, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. Crossroads -talk- 02:25, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Astronomy-related deletion discussions. Crossroads -talk- 02:25, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Crossroads -talk- 02:25, 18 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Edit or Keep its obvious that disc and ring shaped astronomical bodies are a simple enough group to put together into a disambiguation page. If you would prefer a different name recommend one but I do not think that the idea of the page merits a deletion, only the idea that the name should be potentially changed. Bgrus22 (talk) 02:28, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom with circular fire. Aside from jewelry, the only "space ring" I can find is in this single article. The fact that there is no space ring article (just a redirect, itself up for speedy deletion) should have given the page's creator a clue. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:27, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to a new page . Delete This one is a bit wierd. I feel it might be better as some kind of list of rings/discs in space, rather than a disamb page. -Kj cheetham (talk) 08:48, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Based on further thought, and especially the response by Lockley, I'm changing my response to delete. -Kj cheetham (talk) 08:16, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. WP:DPAGE: "A disambiguation page is a non-article page that lists and links to encyclopedia articles covering topics that could have had the same title". This page isn't one if those, so delete, without prejudice to the creation of an article at Space ring. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:51, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Space ring" isn't a thing that would have an article of its own, let alone multiple articles that would need disambiguation. Aldebarium (talk) 19:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I just noticed this article has quite a few redirects pointing to it too, which doesn't really comply with WP:HOWTODAB under the valid reasons to redirect to a disamb page. -Kj cheetham (talk) 19:41, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment -- just to underline Kj cheetham's point, the creator here also created twenty-nine new redirect pages pointing here. One example is Space dust disks.  As far as I can tell, zero pages link to those 29 redirects.  I suspect they should also be deleted en masse perhaps under speedy delete G8 as "Redirects to non-existent targets".  I'm willing to help if somebody wants to ping me.  --Lockley (talk) 18:21, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment Like I said then, how would you classify astronomical bodies in ring or disc like shapes considering that the main differentiation is size or if they are man made. As for that speedy deletion mentioned above it was deleted because the user was problematic not because the content was inaccurate. Im fine with moving this page to a different name or reformatting it but it seems strange that it is so difficult to group the 2 pages that cover circumplanetary discs along with other general space disc or ring shaped bodies. The other ones I linked simply due to similiarities in name that seemed fitting for a disambiguation, but if my concept of how this should work is wrong then by all means lets remove an unnecessary page (I deleted 2 already that were poorly chosen names since if you include debris you could not mention "space rings" which was a redirect at the time of making this disambiguation. But by all means, lets either propose an alternative name, potentially removing unrelated topics like hypothetical structures and astronomical tool, or just delete the whole page outright if it does not satisfy all of your criteria despite potentially solving several issues (pages in need of merging and working similar to a see also section for these topics). Bgrus22 (talk) 05:24, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Just to add (and going off the topic of this particular AfD slightly), if you look specifically at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Redirects_to_disambiguation_pages you'll see new redirects to disamb pages should really just be for variations on spelling, not completely different terms. -Kj cheetham (talk) 08:15, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Considering a name that does not specify size would effectively mean any option is an equally viable search result seemed like a simple reason to put those in line with sending results to the disambiguation and allow users to pick what they would like. With regards to the other terms they simply began joining the list as redirect pages with similar names led me there and seemed like space related rings or discs, a group that is honestly broad enough that a disambig should exist, if not heavily altered; my reason for voting edit or keep above. Bgrus22 (talk) 04:37, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per the nomination. Even the things on the list that are actually rings aren't called "space rings". XOR&#39;easter (talk) 17:47, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This good-faith effort to describe and name a category of astronomical objects has two basic problems (1) it's not for wikipedians to invent names and classify things, it's our job to report on names and classifications found in reliable 3rd party sources, and (2) as explained above this is not a disambiguation page.  --Lockley (talk) 05:58, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Thank you for recognizing I did this in good faith! It seems like the community is set that this page is unnecessary and I am fine with its removal without a replacement if that is what the community wishes. I do think the idea of a list instead of a disambiguation page sounds logical and I would like to know if that would be something I could convert this to. Thank you everyone for teaching me about disambig guidelines! Bgrus22 (talk) 23:01, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No, none of these things are called "space rings" in reliable sources, so creating such a list is still WP:Original research. Crossroads -talk- 23:33, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


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