Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spanair Flight JK 5022


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The result was   speedy keep. - Bobet 17:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Spanair Flight JK 5022
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I don't know why people here have never heard of Wikinews, why do we even have these separate Wiki projects at all? WP:Notability WP:Crystal Ball Notability is not Temporary. I can name dozens of "air disasters" in the U.S. in the past year with more deaths, they don't get Wiki pages. The only difference was they were not on CNN's front page. .:davumaya:. 16:44, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep Subject is presumed notable by receiving significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The onus is on the nom to prove non-notability, not just assert it. --Elliskev 16:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. At least 45 deaths is notable to me.  And I don't recall any air disasters of comparable magnitude in the United States from the past year.  And if there were, I'd argue they should be on here. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 16:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep Notability is as you say not temporary. This incident is the subject of multiple independent sources, the general requirement for notability. Whether other air accidents have articles is not really a good indicator as to whether this article should be deleted. This article should complement the Wikinews article, not replace it. Unless the nominator can provide any further explanation as to why this should be deleted in reference to our guidelines and policies then I suggest this is speedily closed as keep, I see little possibility of it being deleted and it seems unfortunate that the article is tagged for deletion whilst so many will be working to develop it. Adambro (talk) 16:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep- A lot of people died on this flight, so temporary notability is not an issue here. Many flight crash articles exist on Wikipedia. If this is deleted, they all will have to go. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 16:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Recent AfDs on disasters the non has said there were no deaths. Now we have a nom saying there were not enough deaths.  What's the death inclusion threshold?  (That was a satirical question.)  This was the subject of multiple secondary sources and there is absolutely no crystal-balling to say there will be very heavy investigation and documentation as disasters of this magnitude require it by both Spanish an EEC law.  --Oakshade (talk) 16:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Snowball speedy keep We have articles on breaking news stories all the time, numerous articles on previous accidents involving aircraft, notability is not an issue given widespread worldwide news coverage, crystal ball doesn't apply either because event already happened (even though information is forthcoming), and I can't think of any air disasters in the US in the past year with 172 deaths. Madcoverboy (talk) 17:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


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