Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spanglish

spanglish was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to keep. Cool Hand Luke  07:28, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable.
 * This unsigned comment was from the same user who signs as Ms. Greenberg below. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:06, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Most definitely not non-notable. This VfD was posted by User:Historia, who is piqued that his own language article has been listed for deletion.  RickK 00:21, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * Spanglish is not a language. It is badly spoke English unlike Tarish which has existed as a distinct language for hundreds of years. It is racism that keeps the Tarish down. Rachel -Ms. Greenberg 00:34, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Note that the above is User:Historia. And the vote on this subject is on its own merits, and has nothing to do with any other article.  RickK 00:55, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * It is badly spoke English. Oh, the irony. In any case, Keep: informative article about a very real phenomenon. --Calton 00:54, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, I suppose it is "badly spoken English", but only in the same sense that English is "badly spoken Old Norse" and Spanish is "badly spoken Latin". Keep, of course. I hope this nomination was a just inappropriate retaliation rather than an ethnic slur. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:05, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. -Sean Curtin 03:13, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's got the makings of a good article and introduces linguistic concepts to a folk coinage, with examples given. I learned something.  --Tony Sidaway 03:43, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, definitely. Very important cultural phenomenon.  It would be interesting to put it into a historical context too, for example considering how many current European languages probably got started in a similar way, say 1500 years ago. Antandrus 03:49, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a significant phenomenon, and frequently referred to. --Carnildo 04:17, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep it. &mdash;[[en:RaD Man|RaD Man (talk)]] 04:54, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Cypress Hill mentions it. Lots of people speak it, including myself, a Caucasian with Hispanic family members and who grew up in L.A. It's not a racist term.
 * This vote was from 64.169.3.13
 * Keep. A James L. Brooks movie titled "Spanglish" is also coming out soon, I believe. Samaritan 05:51, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. Obviously a deep rooted phenomenom, like franglais for example. Btw, english is just an old messy mixture of latin / french and mordic / german, but I like using it for its practicality in global communication. I'm sure a spanglish version of wikipedia will evolve, like there is already one in a simple english (in other words, in globish, another very important communication / cultrure phenomenom). Also, the deletion madness, something that seems more specific to the english-speaking, ego-american, wikipedia has to stop somewhere, sometimes it verges on nationalism and zealotry. Either Wikipedia is global, open and cooperative, or it is used as a domination tool, and then its only way to go is down. --Pgreenfinch 07:50, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete Bart133 17:20, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is a vindictive posting.  "Spanglish," whether we agree with it or not, is a term in wide use to refer to a non-systematic merging of Spanish and English.  People will encounter the term and need an explanation.  Geogre 17:38, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'd recalled an older vfd, but that was for engrish, so this vfd *is* valid. Since the precedent is to keep these kinds of languages apparently, I'll vote keep here too. Kim Bruning 18:45, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Error 00:26, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, for all the same reasons as above. Zachlipton 01:56, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong keep -- An important development in the morphology of languages.  As important as ebonics  --Handel 02:46, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. 310,000 Google results.  --Randy 02:47, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Being from West Texas, I hear it all the time and have caught myself speaking it when with friends. Inky 20:14, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. This happens with all language communities border areas. Interesting, informative, notable. --Ekevu (talk) 12:18, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. This is just as valid as Ebonics, "Engrish", et al.  [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 18:37, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Tubular 20:47, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Not sure why this was even nominated in the first place. Moncrief 04:12, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, it is a common term. -- Crevaner 10:49, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. fred2.

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