Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spanish Cobras


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The result was speedy keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 05:14, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Spanish Cobras

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Fails GNG. It has been edited almost exclusively by one IP editor (although their specific IPv6 has changed, all of them edit in the same pattern and time) since April 2020. Before that, it received little editorial attention. It has had a more citations needed since February 2011. There are nearly no inline citations. It has nearly 0 sources to corroborate the majority of information in the article. Of the 4 that exist, only 1 is reliable and has significant coverage (Chicago Tribune). Attempts to find sources have failed, as nothing that I can find satisfies RS and also has coverage beyond 2 words (or 3). It also reads as a FORUM and is full of ultimately unverifiable information. If it does turn out to be notable, it would be far better to blow it up. WhoAteMyButter ( 🌇talk │ 🍂contribs ) 23:39, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  WhoAteMyButter  ( 🌇talk │ 🍂contribs ) 23:39, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Puerto Rico and Illinois. Skynxnex (talk) 01:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Subject is notable and has many sources, particularly in newspapers and crime-related sources. Article would be better re-written instead, not deleted. I withdraw my deletion nomination. WhoAteMyButter  ( 🌇talk │ 🍂contribs ) 18:16, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Keep - From poking around, there is an insane amount of coverage on the (Insane) Spanish Cobras, especially starting around June 1977. So there is WP:RSed coverage via newspapers.com and from the Schaumburg Police Department educational pamphlet on street gangs covers them. Surely, any city police department with a gang unit would most likely have material on them. There is coverage in books. 1, 2, 3 and more. There's coverage in newspapers and here by a guy who says he's only interested in researching 20th century (street) gangs. In 2019. They feature in arts and culture too, and the FBI's got a file on them. Perennial crime coverage won't stop. So stay tuned for more to come, folks, as they are a "folk" gang, not a "people" gang. 4, 5, 6, in 2023. United Gangs, Hour Detroit has brief mentions. Perhaps the article should be worked on. The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 13:47, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Good reference finds, greatly appreciated! Disappointed in myself that I couldn't find them. Seems they definitely are notable. Although, I do believe the article should be re-done anew. I'll see what I can do and work on. WhoAteMyButter  ( 🌇talk │ 🍂contribs ) 21:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I've decided to withdraw my nomination, there's certainly a lot of potential here. WhoAteMyButter  ( 🌇talk │ 🍂contribs ) 18:16, 5 October 2023 (UTC)


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