Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sparkie (disambiguation)


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The result was   keep. postdlf (talk) 05:55, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Sparkie (disambiguation)

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This newly created dab page has at most two useful entries. The entry 'slang word for electrician' seems to me to be a bit of a WP:DICDEF, but if it does need to be kept it could be a hatnote to Sparkie. It's apparently Australian slang and I don't know how widespread it is. The third entry is for a record producer who doesn't have an article, making it a non-entry. I would remove it, but there's not much point unless anyone can find anything worth keeping this page for. (In the past I've made some over-hasty deletion nominations I think so sorry if this is another case of that. I don't see much potential for improvement here though). Noiratsi (talk) 16:22, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: Keep this page: Personally, I think the page currently holding the handle Sparkie should be changed to Sparky Williams. Your point on "Australian slang and I don't know how widespread it is": The phrase Sparkie is not just an Australian term used for Electrician, it is in fact world-wide:
 * Sparkie - Electrician http://www.lingo2word.com/lingodetail.php?WrdID=80167
 * Sparkie - In the United Kingdom, "spark" or "sparkie" is slang term for an electrician. http://electrician.askdefine.com/
 * Sparkie - Sparkie - Electrician http://wikitravel.org/en/Australian_slang#People
 * Electrician=Sparkie, Builder=Bricky, Carpenter=Chippy... http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1264644
 * Sparky - An alternative spelling, a common slang term in Australasia for an Electrician. Also occasionally used in engineering as slang for an electrical engineer — Preceding unsigned comment added by HenryHayes (talk • contribs) 18:52, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: I don't agree that a subject that "doesn't have an article" should not be listed as a possible meaning of a word/phrase. Sparkie! is a very well known UK record producer. It should be present on a dis page. HenryHayes (talk) 18:57, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is that we don't have an article for Sparkie the record producer—if you or someone else creates one, then it would be a valid disambiguation entry, no question. As it stands it makes no sense to direct the reader to Record producer when they're looking for "Sparkie". As for "Sparkie" meaning electrician, the important question is whether someone might type "Sparkie" when looking for the page about "Electrician". If they might, it's a useful entry. If not, it's better suited to Wiktionary. Like I said, I don't know the word so I don't know. See WP:DDD for quick dos and don'ts and WP:DAB for more details. In its current form I feel this page really only has a single valid entry (i.e. an entry pointing to an existing article that might reasonably be titled "Sparkie") --Noiratsi (talk) 19:13, 23 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Move Sparkie to Sparkie Williams to make way for "Sparkie" as the primary dab page, add Sparkie (satellite), link it to wiktionary, and to Sparky. If a Sparkie! article for the record producer is created it can also be added. I would like to delete Sparkie (disambiguation) but the editors who do redir work would want to keep it as a redir to Sparkie. BTW, sparkie or sparky (prabably the latter) is slang for an electrician here in New Zealand. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 20:46, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:17, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. I've added enough entries for it to be a viable dab page. Alternatively, it could be merged to Sparky. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:57, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Valid disambiguation page. Could perhaps be merged with Sparky. --Michig (talk) 07:52, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: valid dab page (see WP:DABMENTION which justifies entries for items without their own articles if mentioned in another article). I've tidied it up to correct format. Incidentally, in my personal version of UK English the word for an electrician is "sparks". (As in "the plumber will talk to the sparks about the boiler controls".)  Pam  D  17:04, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: 'sparks' / 'sparkie': Different strokes - different people say it in different ways, IMHO, more reason to have this DAB page distinct from the others.


 * Comment  I have boldly moved Sparkie to Sparkie Williams so that it can be the primary dab page (or a redir to Sparky).
 * Comment Now that PamD has moved Sparkie to Sparkie Williams, this makes way for Sparkie to now redirect to Sparkie (disambiguation). HenryHayes (talk) 01:04, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. That's been done. Wawk, now where's my cracker? Clarityfiend (talk) 01:53, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It wasn't but it is now. We need to make it the primary dab page. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:07, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sparkie Williams is the main topic, so Sparkie should still redirect there, with a redirect hatnote to the dab page. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Based upon the work done to the dab and that it now has nothing to do with the slang term this appears to meed WP:DABMENTION. Mkdw talk 23:05, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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