Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sparkle (2012 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect. No bar against incorporating any relevant, sourced information into the 1976 film article via this article's history, if anyone is so inclined. Rlendog (talk) 02:46, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Sparkle (2012 film)

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Too soon for an article of a film said to be released in 2012, but the actual release year, at least according to IMDb, is 2014. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 12:28, 24 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination (WP:Too soon). Novice7 (talk) 12:48, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Metropolitan90. I should have researched well before commenting. Redirecting to the original Sparkle article is the best choice, atleast for now. Novice7 (talk) 06:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  — &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 14:53, 24 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: Filming is scheduled to start October 10. Since the film is a remake, we could easily merge existing content to a "Remake" section at the original film's article. No need for outright deletion. I'm also fine with keeping the article temporarily since filming is imminent. If there are any problems with starting production, then we can do a merge until it actually gets started. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 21:27, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Sparkle (1976 film) for the time being, or as a second choice userfy, per WP:NFF. The film should not have its own article at this time, because the cameras haven't started rolling yet. But, on the other hand, there are sources that suggest that this film will indeed begin filming soon, and it features some well-known performers and is likely to become a wide release. Therefore, the information can be stored here on Wikipedia assuming that principal photography will start next month; it doesn't need to be deleted altogether. At that time, the article can be re-created. Regarding the release date issue, if Entertainment Weekly is reporting that the film will start shooting in October, it's likely that the film will actually be released in 2012 and that the 2014 date cited in IMDb is inaccurate. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:23, 25 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as none of the sources say anything about this movie being released in 2012 or for that matter in any specific year. There's no real reason for a redirect given that the "2012" is almost certainly wrong. Mangoe (talk) 02:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That the release year is in doubt is a reason to consider not having a seperate article, but not to oppose a redirect of a reasonable search term that Wikipedia readers might use in a wish to learn more.... though Sparkle (remake) might be another logical search term to set as a redirect to its precursor.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:21, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I could accept that as a redirect, but is there really some urgency to this? Why can't we wait until there is some film in the can at least? Mangoe (talk) 02:05, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The article was nominated for deletion 20 minutes after creation, and now that it's here, we decide how to best address the issue per application of policy and guideline. Applying guideline, we see that that the topic might not be ready for an separate article. Applying policy we see that a sourcable topic might still be worthy of discussion if more suitably placed somewhere else. Someone took the time to write a premature article, thus showing an interest in the topic of the remake of the film Sparkle.  If something does "get in the can", then a nicely sourced article would meet WP:NF and not fail its subsection WP:NFF. And in THAT case, the redirect can be reverted and the returned article expanded and sourced accordingly. Not urgency, just a response to the sourcable topic and where it might best be discussed in context.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:52, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Sparkle (1976 film). It does not matter that the release year is not confirmable, as per WP:FUTURE the planned film has enough coverage to be mentioned therein, even if not yet meriting a seperate article.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:21, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.