Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sparrow Hall


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The sources provided in the article are either self-published blogs, or otherwise non-independent or give only trivial coverage. This matter is not sufficiently addressed by the two keep votes, and that gives a clear indication that the notability guidelines (many of them cited by Qworty) are not met. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Sparrow Hall

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The references in this article are not sufficient to show notability of the subject. In the latest version (at the time of nomination), there are five references. The first is a listing showing only that Hall will be giving a presentation at Bennington College. The second, fourth, and fifth references are merely press releases issued by Hall himself. The third "reference" is a video trailer for ... something? Whatever it is, it's not a valid source for a biographical article.

Also, as a result of the trivial nature of the references, very few (if any) of the biographical details recounted in the article are sourced. Per WP:BLP, then, the article would need to be pared down to insignificance if kept. Powers T 13:05, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Biographical details recounted in article seem to now be pared down and sourced.  Validays (talk) 10:37, 30 April 2011(UTC)
 * Yet still insufficient to demonstrate notability. The new sources consist of a blog post and A Crowd Electric's own web site.  Where is the notability?  What has Hall done?  Powers T 15:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And we still have no source for his birthday, which is pretty minimal biographical information. If any significant sources had been written about him, they'd at least include his age, don't you think?  Powers T 14:33, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep albeit a weak one. Ghits pull up variety of sources of an underground nature, so some notability there re: his books & music. While had not heard of this person before, enjoyed reading the Gsearches and learned a few things.  Article has improved a great deal over since deletion nomination.Readorama (talk) 21:34  2 May 2011(UTC)
 * Help me out here; what has he done that's been noted by secondary sources? Powers T 23:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 21:53, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 21:53, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete - No coverage in independent reliable sources to establish notability. Searches for his name with "A Crowd Electric" finds no coverage in reliable sources about his musical work.  Using the titles of his written work also turn up nothing in reliable sources.  The sourcing at this time consists of a link that confirms he is an alumni of Bennington College, which confirms a cfact, but does not substantiate notability; somebody's blog which does not qualify as a reliable source; and the web site of A Crowd Electric which is not independent. -- Whpq (talk) 14:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Give me a break--the guy has done nothing more than co-author a single short story? That hardly makes him notable as an author!  Abysmally fails WP:BK, WP:AUTHOR, WP:CREATIVE, etc. He needs to publish a book with a legitimate press and then have a lot of WP:RS notice the book.  He appears to be years and years away from notability, and may never get there. Qworty (talk) 21:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.