Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sparta Teapot Museum


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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 21:33, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Sparta Teapot Museum

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I created this article many years ago, it is poorly sourced and the museum never got off the ground, it fails WP:GNG Theroadislong (talk) 21:08, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:53, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:58, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Hey, I sympathize with the nominator if they are sort of embarrassed about this, like if they thought they were supporting it but then it failed to survive.  But it was a museum with a collection and apparently there was even controversy about its $500,000 appropriation from the U.S. Congress, so coverage exists (including national level news coverage such as this from CBS, and once-notable-always-notable.  And wp:ITSAMUSEUM.  There's a story to be told about its rise and fall and what happened to its collection.  We don't cover just outstanding successes, we cover many failures such as movements to split a new state out of California, etc.  This did achieve 501c3 status which is a small accomplishment in itself; and presumably there were donors, and the public deserves to know what happened.  But mainly this passes wp:GNG so we keep. --Doncram (talk) 22:57, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * By the way there is no problem about the topic of the museum being silly, in anyone's view. We just had Articles for deletion/Burlingame Museum of Pez Memorabilia which someone nominated for deletion i think because they thought it was silly.  The AFD closed "keep" of course because it is a real thing, and therefore covered in sources, etc. --Doncram (talk) 23:13, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per Doncram. Where are the 6,000 teapots now? Johnbod (talk) 04:15, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * There is tons more stuff about it blowing up, e.g. in a top 32 all-time list of taxpayer waste, etc. Steeped in Surprises The Story of the Sparta Teapot Museum (2011), is a nice Youtube video showing lots of high-art teapots.  I think, based on Kamm Teapot Foundation, which has pics too, that there's more than 6,000, and that they're in a storage facility in Statesville, North Carolina.  It seems a shame that the idea was blown up and ridiculed. Seems to me this would be quite legit, like Craft and Folk Art Museum in Los Angeles with which the Kamms are associated.  I don't know about whether public funds should go into it, but it would clearly have real public benefits to Sparta and Alleghany County, North Carolina more broadly. I hope it does open as a museum someday. --Doncram (talk) 05:41, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per all. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:12, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per all. MB 03:06, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability isn't temporary and museums do close. I'd be happy to see this article re-jigged into something more about the collection of teapots, if that finds another home. Andy Dingley (talk) 04:02, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm a little teapot, short and stout... But in all seriousness, this does seem notable, especially for the pork barrel spending. I challenge Theroadislong to WP:SOFIXIT. I've seen their ability elsewhere, and it seems theres just enough sourcing to expand this, or at least clean up what is there right now. Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 00:05, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep -- per all. Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:53, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


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