Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spartans Drum and Bugle Corps


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The result was No consensus. Randykitty (talk) 17:33, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Spartans Drum and Bugle Corps

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Subject appears to fail WP:NGO Most of the cited sources appear to be from affiliated groups/organizations and or the depth of coverage is insufficient to meet notability criteria. A Google search failed to yield enough material to ring the notability bell. Maintenance tags were removed without any improvement in the article. Ad Orientem (talk) 21:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Hampshire-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:04, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:04, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:04, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Going past the first page of a google search got me this and this, plus a few others that required an account. There is also ref #3, which isn't one I added, but seems to be accurate, reliable, and not self-published (it is used in numerous other drum corps articles). The article might also fall under WP:BAND, of which I think it would pass criteria 1, 4, and 9. Gamma Metroid (talk) 19:47, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I went to the page to add information & cites & discovered that it had been nominated for deletion due to non-notability. Here is the current list of references:
 * http://www.dci.org
 * http://www.corpsreps.com/scores.cfm?view=scoremajor&majorshow=DCI%20World%20Championships
 * http://www.corpsreps.com/corpsreps.cfm?view=corpshist&corps=66&corpstype=Junior
 * A History of Drum & Bugle Corps, 2 Vols.; Steve Vickers, ed.; Drum Corps World, 2002, 2003
 * http://www.lowellsun.com/local/ci_11441758
 * http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/us/20bankrupt.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
 * http://drumcorpseurope.org/article.php?news=7384?&Lang=IT
 * http://www.newhampshire.com/article/20120908/NEWHAMPSHIRE/709089969/0/services04
 * http://homenewshere.com/tewksbury_town_crier/article_11102d6b-2221-50f1-a3e7-5e937028f498.html
 * http://www.spartansdbc.org/about/staff/
 * http://corpsreps.com/corpsreps.cfm?view=corpsdet&corps=66&corpstype=Junior
 * http://www.allmusic.com/
 * Yes, some of them are from sources that are primarily concerned with the drum and bugle corps activity, but others are certainly not. Fredref123 (talk) 05:12, 9 May 2014 (UTC)


 * User:Ad Orientem states, "Most of the cited sources appear to be from affiliated groups/organizations..."
 * Of twelve cites, one (1) is from the organization itself, verifying the sponsorship and current leadership.
 * One (1) other cite is from Drum Corps International, verifying the affiliation of the two organizations.
 * Three (3) cites are from corpsreps.com, an independent organization unafiliated with any drum corps or drum corps association that reports principally on the historic repertoires of hundreds of drum and bugle corps primarily in North America and Europe. corpsreps.com also contains much other information of historic value to the activity. To claim that corpsreps.com is affiliated to the subject of the article is akin to claiming that Sports Illustrated or the sports section of any newspaper are affiliated with the National Football League or Major League Baseball, since those publications report on the activities of those organizations.
 * To claim that Steve Vickers' "History..." is "affiliated" is to also claim that any history concerned with the subject of the Wikipedia article is "afiliated" and, therefore, an invalid reference.
 * To claim that any of the other references is "affiliated" would be to require a far stretch of the imaginination...  GWFrog (talk) 13:56, 9 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 17:37, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per GWFrog ♥ Solarra ♥  ♪ Talk ♪  ߷  ♀ Contribs ♀ 06:35, 24 May 2014 (UTC)


 * KEEP  GWFrog (talk) 14:07, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Fredref123 (talk) 14:57, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the lack of significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Corpsreps are not a reliable source. A link to the allmusic front page says nothing about them. A passing mention in ny times is trivial. Best is three routine local interest pieces which is not significant. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:45, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
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