Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spencer Pratt


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus although it's likely an editorial merge into The Hills (TV series) would be ok with most editors. Gwen Gale (talk) 17:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Spencer Pratt

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Contested prod removed by IP. Article is about a person whose only notability is derived from their relationship to Heidi Montag. Most of this article is OR and the only reference here is to a song he did with his fiancee. Article should be deleted or, more likely, merged into The Hills (TV series) where it can be given appropriate coverage until such time that he actually does something worth writing about. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 01:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Heidi Montag. Only notability claims are tied directly to Montag. to The Hills (TV series) per below. I never considered that. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 01:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Hills (TV series) I don't want to create a situation where if Heidi and Spencer break up (and I can't believe I'm even saying that to assert a WP AfD opinion!) we have to break this article out again and we're back to square one. There's no way this article can be properly sourced with anything NPOV, and the guy's only famous for being a supporting player on a reality show, like Brandon Davis was a supporting (and constantly deleted article because he does nothing of substance) player to Paris Hilton.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * As was Jason Wahler, which has now been merged to the article for Laguna Beach cast members. I'll support the same for this article. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 15:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge to The Hills (TV series) - All his notability stems from his appearances on this show. Clamster 18:47, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, the guy's received a ton of attention through his participation in the show and warrants an article based on that. The available sources are multitudinous. Everyking (talk) 08:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Google news hits, i.e. named in article titles (not just referenced in random articles, but is the subject of them) for Los Angeles Times, MSNBC, FoxNews, etc. Surely there is enough there to expand the article further.  -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 06:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The overwhelming majority of those hits feature Heidi's name first and are about his interactions with her. Those that aren't are about his petty feuds with other Hollywood celebrities, which isn't encyclopedic information. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 17:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Aspects of celebrity's lives are encyclopedic. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 20:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, this isn't People magazine and it certainly isn't some third rate celebrity rag. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 22:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Which is why it would be citing the reliable news sources mentioned above and present the information in a straightforward encyclopedic manner and not in a biased manner like the articles found on the link you indicate above. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 02:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make any sense. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Redlinking this article doesn't make any sense. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 05:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge to The Hills (TV series), plausible search term but not independently notable. RFerreira (talk) 18:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What degree of external attention would warrant an article, in your opinion? Everyking (talk) 20:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral in general. Thanks!  --Inetpup:o3   ⌈〒⌋▰⌈♎⌋ 07:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not wikipedia material. Just hollywood fodder. -- m m 3 g u y 10:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirct to Heidi Montag - a clear case of WP:INHERITED --T-rex 18:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * While the sources overwhelmingly discuss Spencer in the context of his relationship with Heidi, it doesn't follow that he has no notability in his own right. Everyking (talk) 09:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.