Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spider-Man 4 (2009 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete, referring to Spider-Man (film series) until there is consensus to branch it out. Tikiwont (talk) 09:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Spider-Man 4 (2009 film)

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WP:CRYSTAL all the way. The film has been confirmed but that's about it. There's not even confirmation whether Tobey Maguire will be back or not. On top of that, the entire page is ripped from the page for Spider-Man 3. Fails WP:NFF. Redfarmer (talk) 14:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC) Delete WP:CRYSTAL.  Esradekan Gibb   "Talk" 00:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've cleaned up the page to remove all irrelevancies, which does not leave much. Redfarmer (talk) 15:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete until/unless some good sources can be found.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 15:07, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No sources provided. WP:CRYSTAL.-- On the  other side  Contribs 16:40, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Even if this does happen it won't be for a while and nothing will be released on it for a long time. -- Carerra "Chatter" 17:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - it's sourced; why not? —TreasuryTag talk contribs  18:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Because it's not sourced and it violates WP:NFF and WP:CRYSTAL? Redfarmer (talk) 18:41, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, Spider-Man 4 redirects to Spider-Man (film series) and has been there comfortably for many months. — Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:37, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete for failing WP:CRYSTAL. ArcAngel (talk) 21:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep too big to not happen . JJL (talk) 22:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * IMDB is not a reason to keep an article. By WP:NFF, a future film is not notable until and unless it has entered production and there is verifiable information on it. All that's been said about this movie is it will probably happen. Redfarmer (talk) 22:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Superman Returns and Batman Begins literally took decades to return to the big screen. It is full-on speculation to say that this film *will* happen.  All verifiable coverage of the project rests comfortably at Spider-Man (film series), where the impression of an actual film is appropriately downplayed. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 18:37, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. This article is entirely unverifiable and only sources such as IMDB say anything about the movie. Mythdon (talk) 23:39, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Which of the criteria for speedy deletion are you arguing this falls under? Redfarmer (talk) 23:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Im not arguing anything. Mythdon (talk) 23:55, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If you say speedy delete, you need to identify which of the criteria for speedy deletion you think it falls under. Otherwise, it does not qualify for speedy deletion and I really don't see a criteria it would fall under. Redfarmer (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep for a temporary period in order to allow time for the article to be rebuilt after being gutted. I'm sure I've seen media coverage of the film - Kirsten Dunst was the subject of one news report connected to it. And if the film has been officially announced by a studio, then it isn't WP:CRYSTAL. I'm not saying to blindly keep it, but I feel an opportunity should be given for the article to be rescued. Otherwise someone will just recreate it an hour or a month after it's deleted anyway. 23skidoo (talk) 04:56, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not been announced by the studio, just the director in interviews. And the fact that it might be recreated is not a reason for keep. Per WP:NFF, a film is not notable until a film has gone into production. By the way, if anyone is curious, there is already a blurb on the possibility of the film at Spider-Man (film series). Redfarmer (talk) 09:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Spider-Man 4 redirects to Spider-Man (film series), and the studio has already indicated the fourth film will be out in 2010, if it actually does. Alientraveller (talk) 13:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete because content about Spider-Man 4 has been at Spider-Man (film series) all this time. The content's placement in its own article completely fails to comply with the notability guidelines for future films.  If, not when, production begins on this project, the article will be recreated at Spider-Man 4 because there is no other topic called "Spider-Man 4", so a (20XX film) extension is useless.  There is zero guarantee that this film will happen -- look at how long the Batman and Superman films took to be resurrected.  Keeping this article is severely misleading in conveying the impression that a film will be made, when the reality is that such projects are never guaranteed. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 18:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 19:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, not that there's much content anyway. The Dominator (talk) 23:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.