Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spiritwalker (Native)


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The result was   redirect to Astral projection. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Spiritwalker (Native)

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This article is extremely problematic and, if not deleted, at least requires extensive revision. First, it is written as though objective; as far as I'm aware, no objective analysis has ever conclusively proven anything on this topic. Second, even if one had, this article wouldn't benefit from it - there has been no attempt whatsoever to cite, reference, or in any way back up the article with anything but the author's own opinion. And third, it seems to think that 'native' and 'indigenous' refer only to a population subset of early inhabitants of a single continent. If it is to be rewritten, I would advise that an expert on this culture recreate it as an objective history of the concept of spiritwalkers in Native American thought and list certain sources demonstrating how the concept is viewed, perhaps with links or comparisons with similar notions in other cultures. Unfortunately, I'm far from the expertise level required to do this, as I was mainly looking through these articles for research in the first place. Hope someone more knowledgeable than me picks it up! 12.228.191.2 (talk) 17:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC) - discussion page created on behalf of IP by Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: I've tried to clean up the text a little bit to make it less WP:POV. But it definitely still needs attention from an expert. Also because something about the layout of the original text suggest to me that it may be a WP:COPYVIO. -- BenTels (talk) 15:59, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * • Gene93k (talk) 18:12, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Astral projection, unless someone can add a source or two. I expect I could fix it, but am too busy currently. K2709 (talk) 20:17, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete for now. The concept is certainly notable, as seen by the large number of fiction and quasi-fiction books about it. Unfortunately, this article is completely unreferenced and offhand I don't find reliable sources that could even be used. Maybe someday an anthropologist or a Native American expert with sources will write a proper article about this subject. But unless someone can do that now, this article should be dumped as unsourced and unverified. --MelanieN (talk) 01:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
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