Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spitak (village)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that this is about the place already covered at Spitak.  Sandstein  18:11, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Spitak (village)

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This just says the name of the town and its Marz. (plus infobox). Frankly you could find more info on google maps! CopernicusAD (u) (t) :) 17:51, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

*Weak Keep If more can be found on Google Maps, why not add that? If this can be fixed, let's fix it. At the very least, let's give this article a chance to be fixed. If there's nothing noteworthy after giving it a few weeks effort, I'm fine with a delete or merge. South Nashua (talk) 18:04, 14 April 2017 (UTC) Keep WP:GEOLAND: "populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low. Even abandoned places can remain notable, because notability encompasses their entire history."
 * No .The coordinates given in the article point to Lernantsk. Spitak is a city nearby. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:02, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Looks like you're right, this article is redundant due to Spitak. Speedy close. South Nashua (talk) 20:58, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

WP:NPLACE says: "Cities and villages anywhere in the world are generally kept, regardless of size or length of existence, as long as that existence can be verified through a reliable source. This usually also applies to any other area that has a legally recognized government, such as counties, parishes and municipalities." MartinJones (talk) 18:11, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No. The guidelines say you still have to have reliable refs. There are none. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:02, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Wait a sec There is a nearby town named Spitak. Is there a village near the town with the same name? Curious. Should be clarified. 84.73.134.206 (talk) 18:16, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:42, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:42, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep: Per WP:NPLACE, as cited above. bojo  &#124;  talk  19:12, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * There is no such place. The coordinates given in article point to Lernantsk. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:02, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. No such place. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:02, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * And your source for that? or is that your opinion? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:22, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * In wikipedia, it is your job to prove a thing exists, not vice versa. I explained it the article talk page why your reference is invalid. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:34, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

"Spitak was entirely destroyed during the devastating 1988 earthquake, and it was subsequently rebuilt in a slightly different location.". From which the current misunderstanding arose. In any case, there is already a detailed article about this place. 84.73.134.206 (talk) 06:02, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment After reading some forums around, it seems that Google Maps screwed up some times ago misplacing a label, and this might have been created confusion due to speedy propagation of garbage via internets.  Staszek Lem (talk) 20:14, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:GEOLAND; the original reference had been deleted along the way but the nom didn't bother checking prior versions or just ignored the references. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:21, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ... and the reference is deleted again, because the person who restore it did not bother checking that it is not really a reference; it is just a name tag with no information at all. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You're being deliberately stupid. Look at, search the name or the GNS number and you'll find the place. Stop removing references from articles or you'll be considered a vandal as well. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 05:21, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No, this is you who is deliberately refuse to recognize that the reference from geonet you keep inserting has no shred of evidence that it is related to the given article. The search you cite gives a dozen of hits of the name "Spitak", without any meaningful information to what exactly object this name is related or whether they are related to same or different objects. Please respond in the article talk page. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:25, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The current misunderstanding arises solely from non-experts relying WP:SYNTH from tiny bits of info found on internets without critical thinking. This "slightly different" and previous locations bear no relation to coordinates cited in the article, which point to a settlement which keeps existing for at least 400 years. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:29, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Need some clarity on whether this place actually exists, as such...
 * Delete unless evidence can be shown to verify it is different from Spitak. --NoGhost (talk) 19:07, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:59, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * speedy delete per WP:CSD viz Spitak Dloh cierekim  16:09, 1 May 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.