Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spring Branch Middle School (Hedwig Village, Texas)


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The result was   keep. Consensus is to retain, but a merge might be considered by editors on the appropriate talkpages Fritzpoll (talk) 13:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC) 
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The result was   keep. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  13:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Spring Branch Middle School (Hedwig Village, Texas)

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An unnotable middle school in Houston - fails to comply with WP:SCHOOL (even though this policy is not official) as it is a "middle school". Has own page while other middle schools in the school district and city aren't considered notable enough, even when this school has no outstanding specifications anyway. Merger with the article Spring Branch ISD mentioned months ago, ignored. I am also nominating the following related pages because they also fail to comply with WP:SCHOOL and can generally be seen as unnotable:


 * Delete all and redirect to their school district or town. I don't see any real asserted notability for them and every town has lots of schools (essentially the ideas of WP:LOCAL and WP:SCHOOL). DMacks (talk) 02:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Begrudging keep per asserted and supported claim of notability. I really don't think the notability of a single award 20 years ago is sufficient for a school especially at the elementary level (there are about 3400 Blue Ribbon schools selected during the 1982–2002 span and no evidence that there is maintained excellence even though it is a top-few-% group--same theory behind BLP1E), but if that's the bright-line consensus for school notability to have a stand-alone page, then this nom isn't the place to revisit that wider debate. DMacks (talk) 03:04, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep all - All of the schools won the National Blue Ribbon Award - They previously survived AFD for this reason. Articles for deletion/Memorial Drive Elementary School WhisperToMe (talk) 02:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep because of the award. (I should also mention, that I do not believe a school needs to retain its excellence after receiving the ribbon to remain notable. For one, "notability is not temporary", but it's also plain stupid to do so. We don't require other award winners to keep up their standards after receiving their award. The fact they received it is notable in itself -- Whether the Ribbon Award is notable is something that might require a separate discussion. - Mgm|(talk) 09:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —94.196.126.123 (talk) 12:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions.  —94.196.126.123 (talk) 12:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Maybe it's about time that we did discuss whether the Blue Ribbon Award is, in fact, notable. Out of SBISD's 35 elementary and middle schools, thirteen are Blue Ribbon recipients. Part of the reason why I nominated these articles for deletion is because these six schools had their own articles, while the other seven did not. Maybe we should instead create articles for SBISD's other seven Blue Ribbon Schools? I'm sorry I didn't notice the previous Memorial Drive AfD discussion - if the Blue Ribbon Award is notable, then these schools should also have articles: Spring Forest Middle School, Spring Oaks Middle School, Northbrook Middle School, Nottingham Elementary School (which has been created in the past but was deleted), Rummel Creek Elementary School, Spring Shadows Elementary School, and Wilchester Elementary School. — JuWiki (Talk &lt;&gt; Resources) 12:33, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * JuWiki, then nothing is stopping anybody from creating any of those articles :) WhisperToMe (talk) 18:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess... go ahead, finish this AfD thing off and I'll start writing those articles. — JuWiki (Talk &lt;&gt; Resources) 21:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just because we can doesn't mean we must. However, having a bunch of very short articles about schools with single-point notability makes WP seem like a bunch of scattered directory entries...annotated entries, but still. So here's an editorial suggestion: merge all to an article about SBISD schools. Surely there's more to say about "the schools in this area" than just specific data about each one, just as there seems in many cases to be relatively stubby-little to say about each one alone? History? District issues? Funding? One highlightable thing isn't that some schools have won this award, but that over a third of the elem/middle schools in the whole district are Blue Ribbon. Let's focus on writing a useful and interesting content, not just cramming in every dry thing that is allowed. DMacks (talk) 04:40, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep all - not only Blue Ribbon schools but independent news sources are available foe each. TerriersFan (talk) 18:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't see independent news sources for most of these - for the most part, they are cited to the school district website. One had a Houston Chronicle article, which mentioned the school in question only in passing. Karanacs (talk) 14:22, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep A useful article which is growing organically. Any middle school fed by a 1/2 dozen elementary schools is going to have reliable sources out there.  jbolden1517Talk  05:40, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete or Merge to the school district pages. I also think it would be useful to have something like List of Texas National Blue Ribbon Schools.  For the most part, these articles do not have independent news sources.  For the most part, they cite the school district websites (or other self-published sources), and possibly a few articles from the Houston Chronicle which mention the school itself only in passing.  I don't see any evidence of significant coverage in independent sources, as the GNG requires.   Karanacs (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


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