Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sprucefield


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash talk 01:39, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Sprucefield
This article was tagged for deletion back on 5 July. Someone recently added it to the /Old page with a request that the discussion be closed. I can find no evidence that the discussion was ever listed on the main VfD/AFD page. This is a procedural nomination and restarts the clock. Rossami (talk) 23:08, 21 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete. Entirely non-notable. Icelight 5 July 2005 23:11 (UTC)
 * Keep. Very notable. The largest out of town shopping complex (recently doubled in size) in Northern Ireland and one of the largest in the UK. The development has been the subject of long and bitter planning applications and appeals by major retailers, the Lisburn and Belfast Chambers of Commerce. Hence has major implications for planning policy. The centre was bombed during the Troubles and the new B&Q store was destroyed by a dissident republican incendiary device in 2004. Mark83 19:41, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Mark, I learned more from your post about Sprucefield than I did from reading the article. From what I can tell of Spucefield from the article is that it's completely non-notable. If you added the information from your post to the article, it might be worth keeping, especially if you can give some more information about the bombings. --Blackcap | talk 19:55, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep now that Mark83 expanded it. Anyplace that was bombed probably deserves some mention. --Blackcap | talk 21:45, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * This is a shopping mall. It's a listing of location and shops.  There are many thousands of such shopping malls - none of them noteworthy enough for an encyclopedia article.  The fact that the planning process was controversial is completely average.  A planning process that went completely as planned would be more unusual.  The second argument - that a site becomes notable just because a notable crime happened there - also fails to convince me.  The site might be mentioned in the article about the crime but does not automatically deserve its own article.  And to be honest, I'm not convinced that this is a "notable" bombing.  It was one of many in a very long string.  We already have the relevant encyclopedia article  at Troubles.  This is trivia.  Based on what we know so far, I have to argue for deletion.  Rossami (talk) 23:08, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I would agree with you except there are 33 other shopping malls listed in the Category:Shopping centres in the United Kingdom.  A random check of a few of those indicate similar "notability," so this one fits the existing category... --Daedalus-Prime 23:30, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - patently obvious that this is notable, for both reasons listed by Mark83. Though blowing up B&Q actually makes me feel kinder towards dissident republican terrorists. Vizjim 09:04, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Clearly notable. CalJW 18:31, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * keep please it does seem notable so erasing it is not a good idea Yuckfoo 18:55, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * keep I've been there many a time and it is an important step in the move towards taking shopping away from Belfast city centre Keresaspa 14:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep ··gracefool |&#9786; 19:13, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.