Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spyderchat


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. WP:WEB is of relevance here, and no argument has been raised here to suggest that it is met. The suggestion that it kept only as an EL on Toyota MR2 is reasonable -- Samir  धर्म 05:35, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Spyderchat
Contested deletion. Nominated as non-notable website. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn't appear very notable. --Spartaz 16:29, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete The article itself needs to be taken out behind the woodshed and shot (No, inside humor is not appropriate on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is and shall always be on the outside looking in (sniff)), but there DOES appear to be a pretty active community on the site itself (there are literally hundreds of thousands of posts).  That being said, a link on the central MR2 page is plenty. - Richfife 16:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree it needs to be edited but the site is one of the last active MR2 sites for info worldwide, and maybe the only active one left that is mainly centered about the MR2s in America. It is a good source of info for those 20-30k or so MR2 Sypder owners in America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwmorph (talk • contribs)
 * KEEP The article isn't that great, yet, but the subject matter, SpyderChat.com, is very noteworthy, as mentioned above by Mwmorph. Of the MR2 sites that have high traffic that I have managed to find, SC is the most encompassing site. Others are centered around particular geographic regions, byt SpyderChat is global. They have members and very active posters there from across the USA, the UK, many European countries (Greece, Finland, Spain, and more) and Asian countries (Thailand, Japan, etc.) as well. I grant that the article needs a major overhaul. I will take on part of the mantle for that now that I am aware of the WikiNeed. I've been at SC and Wiki for long enough; I feel capable enough to help its expansion. KEEP this article. VigilancePrime 04:17, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment To me, the bigger issue issue is whether Wikipedia is better served by this page or the link that already exists on the MR2 page like so:


 * MR2 Spyder Message Board


 * Surely a user looking for information on the MR2 will go to the MR2 page and then follow the link to SpyderChat from there. What purpose does a separate article serve?  Thanks! - Richfife 04:54, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Same could be said of almost any article. Why read about IBM here when you can go to IBM.com and see for yourself? And Spyderchat is not the only MR2 forum, just (possibly) the largest, longest-running and/or most encompassing. ALL of Wikipedia is available from other sources. That's kindof the point anyway. VigilancePrime 01:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - An IBM article can (and presumably does) include information that the IBM website wouldn't. IBM is an organization with a culture and history of it's own.  Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and cede the point as the article is looking fairly presentable now.  Changing vote to Keep - Richfife 06:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete Another article (and AfD) that provides no outside sources to establish notability. Zero hits on Newsbank &rarr; add as external link to Toyota MR2. ~ trialsanderrors 00:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.