Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Square the Circle (Mami Kawada album)


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The result was keep. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 18:46, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Square the Circle (Mami Kawada album)

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Album does not appear to be genuinely notable. References lack independence, and existence does not equate to notability. No awards, no significant non-trivial coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources. KDS 4444 Talk  09:11, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Does this count as reliable coverage? There's also this I guess. Also, I think there might have been an interview with her regarding the album's making, will see in the next few days if I can find it. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:32, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:32, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * The first link looks like it is a link to an interview with the artist. The English translation I was able to read was pretty disjointed.  The interview never indicates who conducted or wrote it, which brings it into doubt.  Also, it might only contribute to a notability argument for the artist, not necessarily this particular album (although it looks like the website, "Natalie", does have editorial oversight).  Rather than guess what the other references are, can you tell me if they have named authors, if this album is indeed a significant focus of the interview/ article, and if the publisher is one that has paid editorial oversight?  That would help a lot!  Thanks!   KDS 4444  Talk  08:11, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The first link is indeed a link to an interview with Kawada, including a part on the making of the album. The second link is a link from LisAni (a reputable Japanese website which is widely used as a source for anime-related news) announcing the album. While neither article has a byline, as far as I know it's relatively uncommon for Japanese news websites to have bylines. I'm still looking for an interview she did with a website regarding the actual making of the album. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:13, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It sounds like you are on the right track here! If you can find appropriate ways to include these references in the article on the album, please do so as soon as you can.  This deletion nomination is very likely to end in a "Keep" outcome, which is absolutely fine with me at this point, but there are no guarantees that another editor won't step in and offer a "Delete" vote until those references are added and support the notability claim.  There is still time, so act soon!  Good luck!   KDS 4444  Talk  15:14, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete, nothing suggesting the necessary notability improvements. SwisterTwister   talk  04:59, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 13:04, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment The album reached a peak position of 22 on the Oricon Albums Chart, which is a national or significant music or sales charts in Japan. A source for the chart placement can be found here. This and 's addition of a couple reliable sources about the album makes this seem more notable than I originally thought. Aoba47 (talk) 03:43, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oricon specific to the album. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 05:05, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I vote weak keep due to its placement on a major chart and 's contribution of some reliable sources. Aoba47 (talk) 06:21, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Onel 5969  TT me 14:45, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - I'm inclined to think that top 30 album chart placement is notable and impressive in and of itself. The release is indeed on the official Oricon website, as referred to above, which I think is a reliable source (albeit a primary one). CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:04, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, album meets the criterion in notability guideline for recordings by having charted on the WP:GOODCHARTS-listed Oricon, and by being referenced with citations to reliable, secondary sources. Sam Sailor Talk! 12:06, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


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