Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sreelakshmi Suresh (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Courcelles 08:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Sreelakshmi Suresh
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The article does not meet the notability guidelines. Blatant self-promotion. References quoted are mostly from companies/organisations linked to the person. Credibility of the statement "World's first Web Designer" highly doubtful.The organisation which gave her this award is not a credible one. &mdash; Finemann (talk) 13:41, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No where in the article does it say "World's first web designer" -- This nominations seems misleading... Mkdw talk 03:57, 28 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep The are at least four WP:RS references (full articles about her, including two from The Hindu) within the article and quite a few more on the gnews search linked above, with coverage in newspapers of at least four different countries. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  19:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Articles appear about a lot of people in The Hindu. All those people don't deserve a Wikipedia article. &mdash; Finemann (talk) 19:45, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment The Hindu is the most widely read English language newspaper in India, and has been published since 1878. It is indisputably a reliable source.  Accordingly, your argument appears weak to me.  That being said, we usually require more than one source to establish notability.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  02:56, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep per WP:GNG--Sodabottle (talk) 09:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - sufficient to pass "WP:General notability guideline" - Wikiglobaleditor (talk) 07:45, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:34, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep The nominator is not stating the facts correctly, when claiming the article calls her the "World's first Web Designer". Actually, it says she is "one of the youngest award winning web designers in the world", a much less extraordinary claim.  To me, the coverage in The Hindu, the Gulf Times and the Arab News establishes notability.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  03:04, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, I had long forgotten about this article, but I would say the article is mostly out of date rather than its notability status having changed since its first AfD nomination. Also I found an interesting article from June 2011 which shows she's still making headlines -- apparently she has her own company now. Mkdw talk 03:52, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - CNN-IBN is a very notable & independent source in India. Should keep - Wikiglobaleditor (talk) 08:52, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep as per RS mentioned. Wikid as&#169; 07:14, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete Comment I've have been doing some research on the article. I'm restating the major points from the article:
 * "She has been noted as one of the youngest award winning web designers in the world". This is only cited by one obscure reference (which is a personal blog) and not by The Hindu


 * The "Association of American Webmasters" who conferred her the title of the "World's youngest Web Designer" is not at all a notable institution. Their only representation on the internet is a website, which is poorly managed and designed for such an organisation.


 * The organisations that she reportedly joined/created has not had any significant coverage on the media. And Cybrosys technologies do not report of any collabration with Ms.Suresh on their website.


 * The National Award she received is absolutely not the highest award for children in India. And interestingly that award was presented to 38 children that year. So we ought to have 38 different Wikipedia articles right? Awards like the Bravery award are much more important and have received more media coverage than the award she received.


 * The real fun part are the other awards that she reportedly received. The major reference for the tabulated list of awards is this website of her own school which blatantly promotes her. Has any Wikipedian who has voted to keep the article researched on any single award she received? Here is somematerial for fun. I guess this is more than enough to prove the notability of the awards she received.


 * Doesn't all this make a good reason to delete the article? Anybody with basic knowledge about the media and the associated bureaucracy in India wouldn't stand for this article. Somebody just wanted to promote an ordinary girl. Well I might be wrong and Wikipedia admins might decide to keep the article after all. What would the article be about? A girl who designed the website of her school? That her father is a lawyer and mother a home-maker? And that she received a not-so-famous National Award? Well I could write a better article on myself! Seriously I though that Wikipedia was about quality and not quantity in articles. I hope that my arguments would be taken in good spirit. Thank you! &mdash; Finemann (talk) 13:31, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * - The tone of your comment seems like you are taking it more personally - rather than from a neutral point of view. Pls keep in mind that all discussions in AfD should be from a neutral point of view. BTW, I have checked the references and studied about her before voting for a Keep - Wikiglobaleditor (talk) 01:49, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Sorry if my tone sounded personal to you. Anyway why should I take it personal? But I still don't understand your rationale in keeping the article. Is being featured on popular Indian media your only reason to keep the article? And you say that you have studied the references. Did you read any article on The Hindu about her? If you did you would've noticed that all of the articles were in the local edition of the newspaper and came under the regional section. If at all the article were to be kept, do you have any idea about the amount of copyediting that the article would require to make it neutral? More that half of the claimed awards don't even exist (or at least I couldn't find any references for them). Again, I request you to reconsider your vote regarding article. Regards! &mdash; Finemann (talk) 06:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply - if you are well aware of which claims are verifiable and which are not - then please mark them as '. Someone from WikiProject India or WikiProject Kerala''' shall take care of this. - Wikiglobaleditor (talk) 08:46, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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