Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St.Augustine's Higher Secondary School Karimkunnam


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The result was Move to St. Augustine's Higher Secondary School, Karimkunnam. (non-admin closure) JAaron95  &#40; Talk &#41;  16:16, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

St.Augustine's Higher Secondary School Karimkunnam

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Non-notable school. Sammy1339 (talk) 18:16, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:12, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete: WP:TNT. 1. The proper name is St. Augustine's Higher Secondary School, Karimkunnam (note the missing space between the period and upper case A). 2. The article does not locate the school even as much as nation. 3. The article contents are which classes to get "plus two badges." 4. There is no lede or claim made in the body of the article. Therefore, even if someone is an impassioned lover of all secondary schools everywhere, there is nothing to save in this article: all efforts at repair would mean deleting and starting over. Hithladaeus (talk) 00:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and move to St. Augustine's Higher Secondary School, Karimkunnam. WP:TNT should not be regarded as applicable when the basic information required for a viable stub is either already present in the article or can be added after just a minimal search. PWilkinson (talk) 11:25, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and move to St. Augustine's Higher Secondary School, Karimkunnam. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: This article fails WP:GNG. Can anybody explain why this article should be kept, but User:RexxS/St Rexx Secondary High School ought to be deleted? --RexxS (talk) 01:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The article on Rexx Secondary High School is a draft in user space that has never appeared as an article in Wikipedia mainspace. The establishment is not listed as an accredited place of learning in any government or independent lists of UK schools. It appears to be a demonstration sub page of a Birmingham, UK, based PR agency. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:04, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * All of the above is true. "Rexx Secondary High School" is a (hopefully) transparent hoax hosted on my server along with others. But St.Augustine's Higher Secondary School, Karimkunnam is not listed as an accredited place of learning in any government or independent list of UK schools either ("Rexx Secondary High School" claims to be in the Chaldean Catholic Archeparchy of Mosul); St.Augustine's website is hosted in London by Linode Llc; and the domain is registered to an individual living in Chengannur. It is similarly devoid of references and relies solely on its own website. How does WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES exempt St.Augustine's from the basic requirements for a Wikipedia article, which we agree "St Rexx's" doesn't meet? --RexxS (talk) 11:10, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:51, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename as per the above. Per longstanding precedent, secondary school articles are typically retained (see WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and Notability (high schools)). North America1000 09:14, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: SCHOOLOUTCOMES does not pertain to hoaxes. I love all the automatic "votes," but I do wish they would be a little less reflexive. Hithladaeus (talk) 14:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment – The school is listed here here, which is the first place I would look to check whether it's a hoax. "Hoax" is a rather loaded word to be throwing around. – Margin1522 (talk) 15:18, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I shouldn't think it's a loaded word at all. I was applauding the people who vote automatically "keep" on high schools. After all, they know, because a bunch of people have done so in the past, that such a thing is settled in the future. I was only wishing that they wouldn't be reflexive and would be certain they were voting for a high school before they launched their "snowkeep!" and lectures about how all secondary schools are automatically granted articles. After all, a school that has a name on a website might not be a real school. A school that has funding but no students might not be a real school. I know that "SCHOOLOUTCOMES" doesn't talk about that, but surely folks who invoke it have done investigation before invoking it. Hithladaeus (talk) 18:04, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hooray! a genuine third-party reference. I must admit that the first place I would look to check a high school isn't the website of the Syro-Malabar Catholic Archeparchy of Kottayam, but I'm glad there's independent verification of the school's existence. Given that SCHOOLOUTCOMES means that for a secondary school "existence = notability", I'm afraid that eliminating the possibility of hoaxes becomes an absolutely essential part of establishing that notability. It's called due diligence. --RexxS (talk) 16:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename - It exists, so outcomes applies. VMS Mosaic (talk) 01:33, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Snow Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and move to St. Augustine's Higher Secondary School, Karimkunnam. – Davey 2010 Talk 02:18, 25 June 2015 (UTC)


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