Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Francis of Assisi Church, Vienna


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The result was speedy keep per WP:SK. The nominator withdrew their nomination and no delete !votes are present (Non-administrator closure). Northamerica1000(talk) 20:42, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

St. Francis of Assisi Church, Vienna

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Article subject fails WP:GNG and has no sources cited. A quick online search found no English language secondary or tertiary sources meeting WP:RS Ad Orientem (talk) 06:09, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep/close - absolutely not the nominators fault but this is actually just a poorly translated article about one of the largest basilica-style churches in Vienna. It's also the central church for the diocese and would still be a historical building, built more than 100 years ago, if it wasn't and so likely passes our guidelines on that basis alone. The article wasn't clear at all and I had to do some digging but I've added an image to the article so you can see what I mean and there is an extensive commonscat for the church itself. Using one of the 4-5 alternate names there are many sources. The nominator might consider withdrawing this? Stalwart 111  07:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe I will happily withdraw AfD nom if actual notability is established. I am not sure that age translates into notability. Also we really need at least one source. I'm still not seeing notability but its fairly late here and my eyes are starting to cross. I will look at this again tomorrow. It sounds like we should be able to find something to save the article based on what you are saying. -Ad Orientem (talk) 07:51, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, fair enough. I'll keep working on it. You have a sleep and we can revisit it tomorrow. Stalwart 111  08:03, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added some sources and some more information. I've also discovered the building itself is listed as a significant monument on Austria's Denkmalgeschütztes Objekt (4944, consensus generally being that monuments of national cultural significance are notable). I really now don't think there is any way such a building would not be considered notable. Stalwart 111  09:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - I agree with Stalwart111. Fredlyfish4 (talk) 13:50, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep per Stalwart. WP:ATD to the rescue! Ansh666 14:42, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Withdraw AdF Nom As per above. Article now meets WP:N. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:57, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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