Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Louis Stunners


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The result was   keep.  So Why  13:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

St. Louis Stunners

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Non-notable ABA basketball team. Since being "formed" in 2006, this team has yet to compete in a single game and the ownership group recently announced that they will NOT be playing in the '08-'09 season. Millbrooky (talk) 01:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 04:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 04:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment They did play at least two games, according to this. Zagalejo^^^ 05:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * So they have played a pair of games. Would never have thought of looking for news about a St. Louis basketball team in an Alaskan newspaper.  Not sure, however, if that's worthy enough for me to withdraw the nomination. --Millbrooky (talk) 15:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Withdraw nomination. --Millbrooky (talk) 16:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Should have included my reasoning: this article here on Wikipedia, American Basketball Association (2000-) Standings, suggests the Stunners played a full season. Having seen this before would have kept me from nominating in the first place. --Millbrooky (talk) 19:15, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If only the article was referenced! :) -- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  01:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete (sorry, Millbrooky, I know you want to withdraw now). The Alaska newspaper article is nothing more than a passing mention. Unless something more substantial can be found, this doesn't meet WP:Notability.-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  18:53, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There's also this. I'm a little unsure how to handle ABA 2000 teams, since that league is so bizarre, but I'd say weak keep just for the sake of completion. We should at least mention the team in a list or something. Zagalejo^^^ 19:19, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've seen a lot of articles regarding the intended start of the team. I just haven't found any sources concerning the games they played outside of the 2 games they played in '07-'08. --Millbrooky (talk) 19:29, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Found articles for games they played in '06-'07:   .--Millbrooky (talk) 23:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool. It seems like they receive much more attention outside of St. Louis than within. Not so suprising, I guess, since St. Louis has plenty of major league sports to discuss in their newspapers, while those other places don't. Zagalejo^^^ 23:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * We're piling up more passing references, but at least these are a bit better. I'm kind of stunned a professional team doesn't have more quality sources, even if it's only a full article by a sports columnist mocking them.-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  01:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep per verifiable sources. matt91486 (talk) 04:06, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


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